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Old 09-24-2021, 12:12 PM   #1
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Kinda weird

We're at Glen Elder State Park in Kansas. Nice park on a good size lake. We have 50A & water at our site. One weird thing is it seems only the sites with utilities have numbers. Everything else is listed as primitive and not only are there no site numbers, there are no official sites. Just pull off the road anywhere and setup camp. There are 5-6 separate campgrounds, 3 have some utilities and all have these primitive areas. All the primitive areas are in mowed grassy areas, most of the sites with utilities have concrete pads.

Another weird thing is there are quite a number of 5ers & trailers parked in both kind of sites and we've yet to see anyone around them. There are no vehicles. It's like they're just parked here. The number of occupied sites make it seem like there should be lots of people around, but there seem to be very few. Since this is early Friday afternoon, maybe people will show up later today or tomorrow.

We've stayed at a few state parks and have never seen this kind of thing.
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Locals may be securing a spot for the weekend. I've seen this happen many places.
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Locals may be securing a spot for the weekend. I've seen this happen many places.
I agree^^, this could be exactly what is going on, especially if it is a campground fairly close to a large population center.
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I agree^^, this could be exactly what is going on, especially if it is a campground fairly close to a large population center.
This place is in the middle of northern Kansas, not near any populated areas. The campground rules also state that all campsites must be visited at least once every 24 hours. We've been here about that long and have yet to see anyone at most of the sites near us. Plus with the large amount of primitive space it doesn't seem like there would be any problem finding a spot to stay.
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I read that Kansas has seasonal sites at some parks that allow long stays and people can come and go as they want. That could be what’s going on. I’ll ask a park employee if we ever see one.
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A lot of Kansas state parks like Glen Elder have a lottery system in the spring where people reserve a site for the whole season. Those don't have to be returned to every 24 hours. Many people use them nearly every weekend kind of like a second home so to speak.
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We're at Glen Elder State Park in Kansas. Nice park on a good size lake. We have 50A & water at our site. One weird thing is it seems only the sites with utilities have numbers. Everything else is listed as primitive and not only are there no site numbers, there are no official sites. Just pull off the road anywhere and setup camp. There are 5-6 separate campgrounds, 3 have some utilities and all have these primitive areas. All the primitive areas are in mowed grassy areas, most of the sites with utilities have concrete pads.

Another weird thing is there are quite a number of 5ers & trailers parked in both kind of sites and we've yet to see anyone around them. There are no vehicles. It's like they're just parked here. The number of occupied sites make it seem like there should be lots of people around, but there seem to be very few. Since this is early Friday afternoon, maybe people will show up later today or tomorrow.

We've stayed at a few state parks and have never seen this kind of thing.
Stayed at Glen Elder about a month ago during a recent trek northward from TX. Me and BIL had sites 232 & 233 in Kanza Campground. Looks like the last two campsites before the lake per the campground map, or so we thought.

Turns out the shoreline was designated as primitive camping, and there were several RVs utilizing that area. It did seem a bit odd how the primitive areas were closely conjoined with the paved campsites without any signage or anything. RVs were occupied when I was there though. Nice folks too (local fishing guide and friends). Invited us to the shore for campfire antics.

Anyway, I'd recommend the campground and will stay there again when heading that way. As you noted: Concrete pads. Water. Electric. Big campsites where we were. Beautiful campground.
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For information on Kansas state park fees, permits, etc:

https://ksoutdoors.com/State-Parks/Park-Fees

If you can't find the info you need I suggest you call the Wildlife & Parks department - they've traditionally been really good with questions and inquiries.
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A lot of Kansas state parks like Glen Elder have a lottery system in the spring where people reserve a site for the whole season. Those don't have to be returned to every 24 hours. Many people use them nearly every weekend kind of like a second home so to speak.
That must be it.
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Stayed at Glen Elder about a month ago during a recent trek northward from TX. Me and BIL had sites 232 & 233 in Kanza Campground. Looks like the last two campsites before the lake per the campground map, or so we thought.

Turns out the shoreline was designated as primitive camping, and there were several RVs utilizing that area. It did seem a bit odd how the primitive areas were closely conjoined with the paved campsites without any signage or anything. RVs were occupied when I was there though. Nice folks too (local fishing guide and friends). Invited us to the shore for campfire antics.

Anyway, I'd recommend the campground and will stay there again when heading that way. As you noted: Concrete pads. Water. Electric. Big campsites where we were. Beautiful campground.
We stayed in the Cheyenne campground. Site 130. It was nice but we’d probably stay in Kanza if we went back. The map makes it look like there was no space between sites, but they actually have lots of space. Plus there’s shade and more protection from the wind.

There is no signage indicating site numbers anywhere. Only the sites with utilities even had numbers.

It’s a beautiful campground. Due to the constant wind we didn’t get to use the lake as much as planned.
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