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be-happy · 06-30-2020, 10:22 AM

Well its finally happened to me. I have reservation since Dec for a campground in Wisconsin for over the 4th, site had to be paid in full on the date the reservation was made. That was not really a big deal. Well just this week received an email with a required signature. This waiver was releasing the park from "any" responsibility due to injury of any kind while at the park. It covered walking and falling, playground equipment related injury. The list goes on.
I just wanted you all to know if you are planning a trip to Kieler Wisconsin, I would think twice about staying at Rustic Barn Campground.

Podivin · 06-30-2020, 10:29 AM

The way people are inclined to 'call a lawyer' over the most trivial thing, that document seems quite reasonable to me.

HDGoose · 06-30-2020, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by be-happy

Well its finally happened to me. I have reservation since Dec for a campground in Wisconsin for over the 4th, site had to be paid in full on the date the reservation was made. That was not really a big deal. Well just this week received an email with a required signature. This waiver was releasing the park from "any" responsibility due to injury of any kind while at the park. It covered walking and falling, playground equipment related injury. The list goes on.
I just wanted you all to know if you are planning a trip to Kieler Wisconsin, I would think twice about staying at Rustic Barn Campground.

Waivers like this are generally not enforceable and only serve to harass a possible complainant. That is from lawyers in GA, FL and NC, where I was part of the committee organizing a group outing. One cannot waive rights before something occurs.

PJStough · 06-30-2020, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HDGoose

Waivers like this are generally not enforceable and only serve to harass a possible complainant. That is from lawyers in GA, FL and NC, where I was part of the committee organizing a group outing. One cannot waive rights before something occurs.

Bobby F · 06-30-2020, 11:03 AM

Sign away. Means nothing.

rk911 · 06-30-2020, 11:34 AM

MIGHT protect them if you knowingly/intentionally misuse their equipment but not if the property owners are negligent. i'd sign it and not worry. curious...what happens if you refuse? rsvr canceled? refund?

twogypsies · 06-30-2020, 01:37 PM

I just did a quick Google and this came up:

https://blogs.findlaw.com/injured/20...forceable.html

Perhaps this may be coming to RV parks: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...-you-sign-them

nvs4602 · 06-30-2020, 01:48 PM

They should have had you sign that when you made the reservations, before they took your money. Now they have no leg to stand on. They can't force you to sign a waiver months after they've they've taken your money.

TJFogelberg · 06-30-2020, 03:38 PM

It's the McDonalds affect. Spill hot coffee on your lap then sue McDonalds because they serve hot coffee.

Chuck&Pam · 06-30-2020, 05:30 PM

Have signed those at Creekfire RV Resort near Savannah as part of the check in process. That’s the only place I’ve been that requires it. As I recall it’s a 3 page document. The checking clerk gave it to me the same time I signed the credit card receipt.

TXTiger · 07-01-2020, 11:03 AM

You have a contract with the camp ground already. A contract is an offer,acceptance, consideration. You offered to stay there, they accepted, and consideration was paid. Now the camp ground wants to amend the contract. Well the camp ground now has to pay some consideration to you for a new contract. Perhaps a discount/partial refund of what you have already paid or an additional free night? In any event the waiver doesn’t not release the camp ground from gross negligence or intentional harm.

Teamfoxy · 07-06-2020, 11:01 AM

I would sign a waiver of liability any day. Do not under any circumstaces sign anything that says "hold harmless" or "indemnify".

oatmeal · 07-07-2020, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TJFogelberg

It's the McDonalds affect. Spill hot coffee on your lap then sue McDonalds because they serve hot coffee.

More accurately, sue McDonald's because they serve coffee that is hotter than at most restaurants, at a temperature that causes third-degree burns in seconds, about which they've received hundreds of complaints about scalding burns, despite which they'd chosen not to lower the temperature.

https://www.ttla.com/index.cfm?pg=Mc...offeeCaseFacts

Isaac-1 · 07-07-2020, 04:06 PM

Wording on these is everything, a liability waiver stating that one accepts the risks associated with an activity is one thing, a statement of indemnification is something else entirely. 20 or so years ago I was camping at a remote gathering, and the sponsors / host location had such a statement they were requiring everyone to sign upon arrival, one of the fellow attendees by the name of Ed, who I had known from previous events, was a lawyer and was standing in the check in line just ahead of me. When he read the statement, he not only refused to sign it, he urged everyone else there not to sign it as well. The issue was the way it was worded the antendee would be responsible for any damage to the property caused by any of the roughly 500 attendees.