Austin Tx to Talequah OK

[texkayaker]

Will be pulling a 40' Cedar Creek bumper pull "destination RV. "Any way to bypass Dallas?

[dexters]

Originally Posted by texkayaker

Will be pulling a 40' Cedar Creek bumper pull "destination RV. "Any way to bypass Dallas?

Yes, you can and should go by Ft. Worth for safety and to stop up on provisions before the final push to Ok. They organize the wagon trains there to address the recent Indian attacks which have been especially brutal recently. If you can, ask for General Custer wagon train. I'm told he takes you safety seriously.

[txcpl]

The area around Talequah is pretty. Your best bet is to go through Ft. Worth on I-35 and stay away from the Dallas area. There is some construction just north of downtown Ft. Worth, and the traffic is much better than say a year ago. There is still construction north of Temple, just past the Buccees.

Safe travels

[texkayaker]

Originally Posted by dexters

Yes, you can and should go by Ft. Worth for safety and to stop up on provisions before the final push to Ok. They organize the wagon trains there to address the recent Indian attacks which have been especially brutal recently. If you can, ask for General Custer wagon train. I'm told he takes you safety seriously.

I am sure you were the class clown when in school, probable known to many as the class ass&$/(. Grow up.

[Parks]

If you are asking to not have to go through the DFW area im not sure why they are telling you to avoid Dallas but to go through Ft Worth. You'd probably want to avoid the whole metroplex altogether. My opinion is to head North on I-35 and then North onto Hwy-31 to Athens then North on Hwy-19 through Paris, Tx and Hugo, OK then merge to Hwy-69 North to Muskogee to Hwy-62 East into Tahlequah.


Or, there is a route out of Austin on I-35 North to I-35E that takes you around the metroplex through Ennis, Terrell, Greenville and into Denison, TX up to Hwy-75/69 North. Food for thought on these to options.

[texkayaker]

Parks. Thank you very much for your reply, I will take the Athens, Paris, Hugo route

[JDT]

I'm a local. Several stop lights to navigate thru Muskogee but 4 lane all the way to Tahlequah. Be careful when going thru the Fort Gibson area. There is a slow down for construction right after you go over the Arkansas River and it lasts till you are a few miles out of Fort Gibson. The FG police have taken it upon themselves to enforce the reduced speed limit.

[texkayaker]

Thanks JDT

[ScoobyDoo]

Originally Posted by JDT

I'm a local. Several stop lights to navigate thru Muskogee but 4 lane all the way to Tahlequah. Be careful when going thru the Fort Gibson area. There is a slow down for construction right after you go over the Arkansas River and it lasts till you are a few miles out of Fort Gibson. The FG police have taken it upon themselves to enforce the reduced speed limit.

Just clicked on this thread at random, and was kinda taken by "The FG police have taken it upon themselves to enforce the reduced speed limit."
I don't understand. Who, in your opinion, should be in charge of enforcing the reduced speed limits?

[JDT]

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo

Just clicked on this thread at random, and was kinda taken by "The FG police have taken it upon themselves to enforce the reduced speed limit."
I don't understand. Who, in your opinion, should be in charge of enforcing the reduced speed limits?

Short answer: Oklahoma Highway Patrol. Long answer: Have you heard of speed traps created by small towns annexing long stretches of 4 lane highway, usually having no reasonably close proximity to the actual town, just so they can patrol it and make extra funds for the town? It got so bad that several years ago the state legislature passed a bill tying to stop it. I'm not accusing Fort Gibson of this but they did annex an area of the road that extends probably 5 or 6, or maybe more, miles from the actual town. In their defense they did this quite some time ago to include a large power plant to get the tax money for their schools, which also contributed to another law equalizing school funding. But it still bothers me when I see a city police vehicle keeping their community safe by patrolling a section of highway a good distance from their town. I beat them every time because I don't speed.

[ScoobyDoo]

Originally Posted by JDT

Short answer: Oklahoma Highway Patrol. Long answer: Have you heard of speed traps created by small towns annexing long stretches of 4 lane highway, usually having no reasonably close proximity to the actual town, just so they can patrol it and make extra funds for the town? It got so bad that several years ago the state legislature passed a bill tying to stop it. I'm not accusing Fort Gibson of this but they did annex an area of the road that extends probably 5 or 6, or maybe more, miles from the actual town. In their defense they did this quite some time ago to include a large power plant to get the tax money for their schools, which also contributed to another law equalizing school funding. But it still bothers me when I see a city police vehicle keeping their community safe by patrolling a section of highway a good distance from their town. I beat them every time because I don't speed.

Ok. Now I understand the problem. And in my home town I have called out the chief of police in city council meeting because of them running radar on the interstate not in residential areas where kids play close to street. But like you say, that problem is easy to solve for any individual.
When I read your post;
"There is a slow down for construction right after you go over the Arkansas River and it lasts till you are a few miles out of Fort Gibson. The FG police have taken it upon themselves to enforce the reduced speed limit."
it implies to me that you don't think the local PD should be enforcing the speed limit in construction zone. IMHO, there is not enough enforcement in construction zones. City, State, county whatever. Bell, give the dog catcher a radar gun and ticket book...

[redcolorado]

IMHO there is not enough enforcement anywhere. I think I am the only person that drives the speed limit in Waco Texas, including the police. But we get what we pay for.

[Parks]

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo

Ok. Now I understand the problem. And in my home town I have called out the chief of police in city council meeting because of them running radar on the interstate not in residential areas where kids play close to street. But like you say, that problem is easy to solve for any individual.
When I read your post;
"There is a slow down for construction right after you go over the Arkansas River and it lasts till you are a few miles out of Fort Gibson. The FG police have taken it upon themselves to enforce the reduced speed limit."
it implies to me that you don't think the local PD should be enforcing the speed limit in construction zone. IMHO, there is not enough enforcement in construction zones. City, State, county whatever. Bell, give the dog catcher a radar gun and ticket book...

There have been a handful of lawsuits about what JDT is saying. Small towns purposely writing up so many tickets that it becomes a major funding avenue for their department and city that it became out of control and the State had to step in. It's a real problem in OK.

[ScoobyDoo]

Originally Posted by Parks

There have been a handful of lawsuits about what JDT is saying. Small towns purposely writing up so many tickets that it becomes a major funding avenue for their department and city that it became out of control and the State had to step in. It's a real problem in OK.

I understand this. And I also understand that it is not just a OK. issue, a small town issue, or traffic issue. The people of Ferguson Mo brought the issue to the public's attention a few years ago. Sure, the press, as normal, looked with the wrong lens, publicized a racial issue, instead of what it really is; A rich/working class issue!
And JDT did not say "This little town enforces speed limits on a much larger area then town", he said the town enforces the speed limit in the CONSTRUCTION ZONE!
Some cities and states take pictures that show car, time and speed. I do not think they should used to mail tickets. But set the camera, cop(s) and a judge at the end of zone. Camera alerts, cop flags over the car, gets driver out while judge is looking at car and picture. "Guilty!" Drive is escorted to barricade, strapped to it and a hood installed.