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11-08-2016, 11:41 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Kind of a side note here, but there are much better ways to accomplish what the Border Patrol is supposed to be doing rather than harassing thousands of American citizens everyday.
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11-09-2016, 08:36 AM
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#72
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Wales, FL
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If you are not hiding anything why do you need an attitude?
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2005 38' FDTS Alpine Limited, 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
Lake Wales, FL
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11-09-2016, 09:22 AM
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: May 2000
Location: California Central Coast
Posts: 2,034
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The only complaint I have of the check points is that they put the one on I8 in CA at the bottom of a long grade. Takes a lot of gas to get up to speed leaving that one.
Glenn
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2011 Chevy Colorado 4X4 with Ready Brake
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11-09-2016, 09:43 AM
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#74
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Olympia, Wa
Posts: 2,772
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How does the guy at the border or inspection station know you are a citizen, got a tattoo on your forehead? Just answer what is asked nothing more. We go thru several every year and no trouble. Normal goes like citizens? Yes where to and from? Texas Yuma Anyone else with you? NO whats the curtain for? To keep us cool or warm. Have a good day. Or just pull up, sun glass's off window open and a wave through.
These guys are god and can really make your day, I'll vote to test the system not be a martyr.
LEN
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11-10-2016, 03:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrDaveMA
If you are not hiding anything why do you need an attitude?
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As was said by someone else, the fact someone is not hiding anything should not require him to give up his rights. Also, when a person objects to the police overstepping a persons' rights, it should not be called a bad attitude.
I present myself and my property so that I don't trigger any signs of guilt and I don't get a second look. However, I do object to questions that aren't relevent to immigration.
My intent is to not allow the government to enter my business where they are not allowed without probable cause.
Retirement allowed me to cross the border over a thousand times in the last several years so I know what they will ask and why. I object to questions that are posed to solicit information of my life outside the scope of immigration and I voice my objections.
I have an idea where the lines are drawn and I think both teams need to play inbounds. I'm not hiding anything.
I don't think there's anything wrong with respecting law enforcement, I do, but I won't give them my rights. I just play by the rules. I hope other citizens don't give away those rights either.
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11-11-2016, 11:42 AM
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Member
Gulf Streamers Club Workhorse Chassis Owner RV Trip Wizard
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 98
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As a service to other senior retirees, if you have crossed the border 1000 times in recent years, it would be helpful to the rest of us if you tell us what questions you refuse to answer because you do not think they are appropriate. I have never been asked anything more than citizenship, and never been asked for a search. I have never even been asked to prove my citizenship or ownership of the vehicle. Perhaps I just look fat, dumb, and happy, so I must be an American?
Jim Hamilton
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11-11-2016, 04:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Enjoying the Western States!
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Steve11669: 1,000 times crossing in several years? Are you a drug runner?
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Traveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Diesel
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11-11-2016, 07:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twogypsies
Steve11669: 1,000 times crossing in several years? Are you a drug runner?
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jeeez... they are called mules now. I have been across the border many times and through check points. I have been questioned, x-rayed, interviewed, pulled over at gunpoint, searched (no cavity) with total respect. I am grateful for these men and women who try to cut down on the crime that is effecting our country. I could not do it. Answer their questions and follow instructions........and have a nice day!
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2001 tacoma 4x4 TOAD
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11-11-2016, 09:21 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 12
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Border patrol checkpoints.
We do not go into Mexico, but we do a lot of driving on the I-10, roads and back roads of Arizona very near the US/Mexico border. We encounter the Border Patrol checkpoints often. As a matter of caution we have our US passports with us but have never been asked for them. We roll down all of our windows as we enter the checkpoint so that they can see what is in the cab of the truck, they have never even asked to open the tailgate. They ask if we are US citizens, we say "yes", and they tell us to proceed on.
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2005 Excel Lmtd 33RSE
Spouse, Golden Retriever, and 2 cats
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11-11-2016, 10:00 PM
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#80
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,024
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I get searched all the time coming back from Canada. Won't take MH across any border, and just avoid going across in my vehicle any more.
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11-11-2016, 10:30 PM
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#81
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesham
As a service to other senior retirees, if you have crossed the border 1000 times in recent years, it would be helpful to the rest of us if you tell us what questions you refuse to answer...
Jim Hamilton
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Sure Jim, I happy to give you more info. If you review my post, I did not say I refuse to answer anything. I did say I have respect for law enforcement and in fact, as I pull up to the officer I always say good day sir/ma'am and continue with whatever is needed.
I did write that I will voice an objection if the question is not about my immigration status and this does not happen frequently. For example; I have spent allot of the last several years near the San Diego border crossing due to my youngest son being in school in that area. I lived in Tijuana for years and crossed daily if not a couple times a day.
My vehicles are not registered in CA but in another state and I have had some agents ask me why that is so. I have only been asked that maybe less than 15 times over years but it is not relevant to entering the US. After the second or third such question, I began to ask them why that fact is relevant to my citizenship status. Usually the topic is dropped.
I have no issue providing my status and proof but I prefer not having any officer/agent asking about my business unless he has legal cause to. He can ask but I voice my objections respectfully.
I don't look for an arguement with the agents, I just prefer they focus on immigration. One agent told me I needed to register my cars in Mexico since I lived there. Not true and giving false info or threats is unprofessional.
Another agent told me if I drive on a CA Road, I have to pay CA taxes. That's ridiculous!
I don't cross as often for the last couple years and can't remember the last time I was questioned about my state of residency.
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11-13-2016, 07:30 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Port Orchard, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve11669
I don't look for an arguement with the agents, I just prefer they focus on immigration. One agent told me I needed to register my cars in Mexico since I lived there. Not true and giving false info or threats is unprofessional.
Another agent told me if I drive on a CA Road, I have to pay CA taxes. That's ridiculous!
I don't cross as often for the last couple years and can't remember the last time I was questioned about my state of residency.
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Aren't you paying CA taxes when you purchase fuel in CA? Isn't that enough?!?
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Newmar 4 wheel drive Dutch Star 3891, SOLD
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11-13-2016, 08:45 PM
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#83
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Moderator Emeritus
Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Lone Star State
Posts: 19,203
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Thanks to all who contributed.
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