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Old 12-07-2020, 10:58 PM   #57
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Old 12-07-2020, 11:18 PM   #58
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I understand your concern!

Sacramento north:
* Although the rioters in Portland -- generally -- stay in one area, they can explode anyplace at any time.
* You are prudent to anticipate the rioters in any area along Interstate Five.
* I would add additional concern for remote forested areas because of arsonists.

Sacramento south:
Our last trip through south California was decades ago, so my concern is based on second-hand information:
* According to reports, I would be concerned about traveling through Modesto, Stockton, Fresno, Bakersfield, and Los Angeles/San Diego in anything less than a convoy of Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
* Same with frisco and around there.
I suggest you find different 2nd hand information!
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Old 12-08-2020, 10:13 AM   #59
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I understand your concern!

Sacramento north:
* Although the rioters in Portland -- generally -- stay in one area, they can explode anyplace at any time.
* You are prudent to anticipate the rioters in any area along Interstate Five.
* I would add additional concern for remote forested areas because of arsonists.

Sacramento south:
Our last trip through south California was decades ago, so my concern is based on second-hand information:
* According to reports, I would be concerned about traveling through Modesto, Stockton, Fresno, Bakersfield, and Los Angeles/San Diego in anything less than a convoy of Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
* Same with frisco and around there.
2 things on the Portland area. First there is now a bypass around the city which we would use even if there were no rioters. Second, law passed you canít stop traffic on interstate. They arrested a bunch after that was enacted. Think that wa the last time they tried it.

Regarding traveling thru Modesto, etc. Yes I would avoid LA/San Diego unless you are going there. Traffic is crazy and packed. Try to find, even if longer, routes around.

This doesnít help OP, since avoiding interstates, but might be a route for others. Since we are starting a long trip we want to get out of CA as fast as possible LOL.

We go to Florida every year from San Jose. We take I5, cutover on 46 (2 lanes, not a long distance, couple of towns) to 99. Stay at Bakersfield RV Resort, they have a great restaurant on site (do not take White as instructed, have to get across 3 lanes to get in left turn lane. Go to next exit, Panama, make a right on Wible. One stop light, RV park on left. Lots less stress!. When we leave we actually go back NORTH on 99 for a couple of miles and take Highway 58 to 40/15 (for a blink of an eye) You can stay on I40 or if going to Quartzsite or the southern route turn off at Needles at 95 to I10 (will drive thru Quartzsite). Itís 2 lanes, with whoop de doís, but very relaxing, peaceful & quite pretty.
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"We go to Florida every year from San Jose. We take I5, cutover on 46 (2 lanes, not a long distance, couple of towns) to 99. Stay at Bakersfield RV Resort, they have a great restaurant on site (do not take White as instructed, have to get across 3 lanes to get in left turn lane. Go to next exit, Panama, make a right on Wible. One stop light, RV park on left. Lots less stress!. When we leave we actually go back NORTH on 99 for a couple of miles and take Highway 58 to 40/15 (for a blink of an eye) You can stay on I40 or if going to Quartzsite or the southern route turn off at Needles at 95 to I10 (will drive thru Quartzsite). It’s 2 lanes, with whoop de do’s, but very relaxing, peaceful & quite pretty."

Excellent advice...I really ticked some people off getting in that left turn lane one time.
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LargeMarge - In response to your claims:

Rioting could pop up anywhere along I-5, at any time??? Really????

What an alarmist and ignorant thing to say - especially for someone who admits to not having traveled I-5 in decades.

As already posted - we have ourselves, in our RV, towing a car, traveled on I-5 from North of Seattle -->Portland-->Redding, CA-->Sacramento-->Bakersfield-->LA - all in the last 3 weeks. Saw no rioting anywhere, nor any evidence of rioting having occurred anywhere. Instead we saw lots of people, in lots of traffic trying to carry on with their normal lives as best they could in this crazy world of alarmist news.

And you have the gaul to comment on I-5 travel - based on no evidence and no personal experience from this century. You should write for CNN if you insist on writing total fabrications like this.
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LargeMarge - In response to your claims:

Rioting could pop up anywhere along I-5, at any time??? Really????

What an alarmist and ignorant thing to say - especially for someone who admits to not having traveled I-5 in decades.

As already posted - we have ourselves, in our RV, towing a car, traveled on I-5 from North of Seattle -->Portland-->Redding, CA-->Sacramento-->Bakersfield-->LA - all in the last 3 weeks. Saw no rioting anywhere, nor any evidence of rioting having occurred anywhere. Instead we saw lots of people, in lots of traffic trying to carry on with their normal lives as best they could in this crazy world of alarmist news.

And you have the gaul to comment on I-5 travel - based on no evidence and no personal experience from this century. You should write for CNN if you insist on writing total fabrications like this.
I thought Marge wrote for the creative side of FOX or OAN
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LargeMarge - In response to your claims:

Rioting could pop up anywhere along I-5, at any time??? Really????

What an alarmist and ignorant thing to say - especially for someone who admits to not having traveled I-5 in decades.
I was going to post something, but decided to bite my tongue. I do however, like what you said:-) Since being on this forum for a few years now, I have determined some folks are just simply afraid of their own shadow. I think age plays into some of it.
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Take I 205 around Portland, Or. Traffic is terrible on 5 through Portland especially from 6am to 9am and 2.30pm tp 6pm.
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LargeMarge - In response to your claims:

Rioting could pop up anywhere along I-5, at any time??? Really????

What an alarmist and ignorant thing to say - especially for someone who admits to not having traveled I-5 in decades.

As already posted - we have ourselves, in our RV, towing a car, traveled on I-5 from North of Seattle -->Portland-->Redding, CA-->Sacramento-->Bakersfield-->LA - all in the last 3 weeks. Saw no rioting anywhere, nor any evidence of rioting having occurred anywhere. Instead we saw lots of people, in lots of traffic trying to carry on with their normal lives as best they could in this crazy world of alarmist news.

And you have the gaul to comment on I-5 travel - based on no evidence and no personal experience from this century. You should write for CNN if you insist on writing total fabrications like this.
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Rioters....got to get into downtown Portland. But the drive (5) going thru Portland is riddled with homeless encampments all along the freeway. It is especially noticeable if your poking along in traffic thru Portland. To many city officials think throwing money at it will make it better.


It won't. Not by a long shot.
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I imagine I-5 from Sacramento south should be avoided at all cost in an RV, but how about Sacramento north?
North of Sacramento on I-5 is pretty easy. South is not all that bad either, but avoid the Grapevine. In heading to Palm Springs area, we leave I-5 at Buttonwillow exit heading through Bakersfield to 395, but to avoid the I-15 and -215 as well as the I-210, we go through Lucerne, and then Yucca Vallies down to the I-10. Our trip is about 40 miles longer...but usually lots faster, and much easier driving.
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North of Sacramento on I-5 is pretty easy. South is not all that bad either, but avoid the Grapevine. In heading to Palm Springs area, we leave I-5 at Buttonwillow exit heading through Bakersfield to 395, but to avoid the I-15 and -215 as well as the I-210, we go through Lucerne, and then Yucca Vallies down to the I-10. Our trip is about 40 miles longer...but usually lots faster, and much easier driving.
Why do you feel the grapevine should be avoided? I'm just wondering as I have respect for all mountain passes and really don't feel the GV is all that bad and if you have problems you have lots of room to pull over most of the way. I could see going your route on 58 if you didn't have a need to enter the LA basin around Castaic or Santa Clarita, going your route it's pretty desolate out there.
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I don't really understand why so many people appear to be terrified of the Grapevine on northbound I-5 north of LA! I used to drive a commuter bus (i.e. Greyhound size) from Bakersfield to LAX and back. I had no problems, why? It's called planning!! There are several signs posted warning of the upcoming 6% downgrade. If you start slowing down and downshifting beforehand, there shouldn't be any problem.
I feel a more "scary" route is westbound on I-70 from the Eisenhower Summit west of Denver. It's a 7% downgrade for over 7 miles! That will really get your attention.
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On this trip I'm planning for next fall, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Montana, Washington down the coast switch over from 101 to 395 in northern California, down to Bakersfield and across to Las Vegas to Zion around the north rim of the GC, down to Flagstaff then home to Mesa.....I think there must be at least a dozen or better grades (up and down) of 6% or better for several miles. So what makes the Grapevine any different than all those other passes that I'm going to be going over?

P.S. I'm not planning on going down I-5 at the Grapevine anyway, but why is everyone talking about it?
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