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Old 04-19-2018, 10:46 AM   #1
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Hello,
we are still trying to map our route to Yellowstone.
We are leaving toward the end of August. Right now we are thinking of heading out of the Custer area up to Billings, MT then to N Yellowstone, (maybe over to West entrance for one night) down to Fishing Bridge over to Cody, then South to Grand Teton. I see some travel from the Custer area over to Cody, WY. Not sure if one is better than the other and we don't want to miss anything. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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First, what are you traveling in?

I'd recommend first going to Cody if you really want to stay there. Or else, if you're staying at Fishing Bridge you can easily do a couple day trips to Cody.

Take I-90 to 16 at Buffalo,WY to Worland then north to Greybull and west to Cody. From Cody drive to Fishing Bridge - no need to go to Billings and come in from the north. No need to stay in W. Yellowstone if you're staying at Fishing Bridge.

From Yellowstone head south through the park and into Grand Teton NP.

Where are you going from there? Taking 287 east from Grand Teton toward Dubois is a very pretty drive. Or else leave the Tetons via 89/191 toward Pinedale and Rock Springs to I-80.


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For the summer 2018 season there are two major construction zones. Link to Yellowstone construction zones 2018.

~ From the northern Mammoth Hot Springs entrance directly south towards the Norris and the west entrance has a 5 mile construction zone with 30 minute closures.

~ The area around the Canyons area, has major construction projects with half the available parking lots closed.

These were the same construction projects we ran into last June. To visit the Canyons area, get to the parking lots that are open before 9am.

How many total days do you plan to spend inside the park? parks?
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I grew up in Fenton... a long, long time ago. We also had a Jeep Liberty. Fun car! Have a great trip!!
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There is supposed to be a great deal of construction on the east entrance road from Fishing Bridges to about 5+/- miles east of it. You can expect long delays heavy dust or mud.

Don't make your timeline tight because there is a great deal to see, crowded roads and people who can't comprehend DON'T STOP IN THE ROADWAY at all.
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Also the pavement width on the NE quadrant of the loop road in Yellowstone is narrower than on the southern half of the loop. (ie it drops off at the white line vs a foot or so past the white line)
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Yes, it's always recommended to check the park's web site for any updated issues or special alerts. This also gives a phone # to call for up-to-date information. Right now I don't see any construction planned for the Cody entrance but that doesn't mean it won't happen. The park has very limited time to do any repairs due to weather. If there is construction you most likely would be able to use the road but it will just be slower. Keep checking as you travel so you know what to expect but don't cancel a trip because of road issues. You might just have to come in a different way. There are many entrances.

By the way, a couple roads just opened for the season.

Here's the park's web site with lots of good information, including the phone # for roads:

https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/conditions.htm

Here's another write-up on what to expect driving any of the park entrances:

http://www.rvtechmag.com/travel/4_yellowstonebyrv.php
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they are always working on the roads.short summer limits the time they can do it. a bison or bear can create a lot bigger traffic jam with out trying.
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Also the pavement width on the NE quadrant of the loop road in Yellowstone is narrower than on the southern half of the loop. (ie it drops off at the white line vs a foot or so past the white line)
Good to know

Our June 2017 two week stay inside Yellowstone we covered the whole park except the NE. corner. We got as far northeast as the Petrified Tree near Roosevelt Lodge. While scouting out places to camp next time, I have ruled out the campground at Tower, because there might be only 2-3 spots a 28' RV trailer could fit. Even the Canyons Campground is very limited for a RV trailer. Any ideas? (Late May or early June stay). Slough Creek? Pebble Creek? or take my chances at Mammoth Hot Springs Campground as a first come first serve.
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Some general information about YNP (some items apply to GTNP also)

YNP is about 45 miles E/W and about 65 miles N/S (2.2 mil. Acres total). The figure 8 loop road inside the park is about 140 miles around. The lower loop is 96 miles and the upper loop is 70 miles around and yes, it is bigger than the states of Rhode Island and Delaware combined.

Whatever time that you think you will need to see YNP you better double it, or to say it another way is that you will see one half as much as you planned on in the allotted time. The Bison think that they own the road (they do!) and will slow down the traffic to walking speed or all stop for 1/4 mile or more blocking both directions of travel, the thermal attractions also tie up traffic and with a 5 month long summer tourist season that coincides with a 5 month long road construction season and a 45 MPH radar controlled speed limit it will take about a full day to see each loop and then you will only see the main attractions. In addition to the occasional construction delays they will also sometimes close whole sections of road (for uninterrupted night construction) between 10 PM and 8 AM in the morning, if you are running late and get caught at night in the wrong area it CAN be a LONG way around to your CG! (The entrance stations will have current construction information or go on line to check it out)

Then there is the elevation- YNP ranges from a low at Mammoth- 6239 ft to 7784 ft at Fishing Bridge or higher if you go hiking and there are passes on the grand loop road that are close to 8000 ft or so! Drink plenty of liquids and pace yourself when walking.

I recommend that you get up EARLY, leave the CG and be back by 4 or 6 PM have dinner and be sitting in your recliner drinking a cool one when your neighbor drags himself back to the CG at 8-10 PM. Remember that from mid May to mid July in YNP the sun doesn't set until about 9:30- 9:45 PM then there is a long twilight.

Cell Phone Service- Only at the major visitor centers, otherwise spotty to non-existent!

Clothing- Especially in the early or late season it is not unusual to have a 30 or even the occasional 40 degree temperature change throughout the day. Dress with easily shed layers of clothing. Also dress in bright easily seen clothing. I am sure that we all have been to a sporting event, parade or Disney World etc. and we blink our eyes and our partner/child has disappeared. My DIL was born and raised in HI, you guessed it, every Xmas, b-day or Father's Day I receive a Hawaiian shirt. One of them is shiny black with 4-5 inch dia. bright flowers. Not many of them in Wyoming and in YSNP, that is what I wear. If your partner has on a Violet blouse and a Orange scarf with a Pink hat I guarantee that she will be the only one within the boundaries of either NP. It can save you a few anxious moments.

Water- Now I will have to contradict myself, at the altitude of YNP yes, drink lots of water! HOWEVER, be aware that the flush toilet restrooms are are in the major tourist areas- Mammoth, Canyon, Fishing Bridge, Lake Hotel, Bridge Bay, Grant Village, Old Faithful, Madison Junction etc. The geyser basins and other thermal attractions areas only have pit toilets. I have seen the pit toilet line (2 rest rooms) at the lower Geyser Basin 25 or more feet long (bless the tour buses) So be smart about drinking your water and use the major tourist area R/Rs before leaving the area! I.e. “Never pass up a flush toilet!”

Sun- At YSNP altitude the Sun is intense (uv)have and apply sunscreen, wear that old floppy wide brim sun hat, wear Sunglasses!

If your luck is like mine Old Faithful will have just erupted when you get there and you will have up to a hour and 10 to 15 minutes wait for the next one. Tour tour the O/F Geyser basin while waiting. O/F INN is a must see, reportedly the largest LOG building in the U.S. (Meals in the O/F dinning room are “OK” also.

We have lived about 110 miles from West Yellowstone, MT since 1964, go to YSNP 3-4 times a summer (normally before Memorial Day and after Labor Day) and haven't seen it all yet! So don’t be discouraged that you didn’t have the time to see all of it. Just plan on coming back another time!

I honestly don’t mean to scare or discourage you but to give you a heads up as to what to expect! After all there was 4.1 million visitors in 2015! As far as I know we didn’t lose one of them. Except those who by their own stupidity step off the board walks into BOILING HOT water and ignoring the warnings about the WILD ANIMALS! That is called purifying the gene pool!Early in the summer of 2017 a foreign visitor stepped off a boardwalk into just a few inches of hot water. He walked about 100 yards (according to the newspaper) broke thru the crust and parboiled himself. The park service decided not to try to retrieve the body! Between the temperature of the water and the acidity of it the body would just fall apart when retrieving it, as well as being dangerous to the rangers. Of course a few Bison fall in every winter also.

Note I have seen on this blog and others about folks “day tripping” from YSNP to GTNP, it is done all the time (myself included) however remember this is BIG country and with the speed limits, animals and thermal attractions you will NOT come close to a 60- 65 MPH average. From the West Thumb Area, Grant Village Visitor Center (extreme S/E corner of the lower loop road) to Jackson, WY is about 80 miles with Coulter Bay being about 1/2 way then from Grant Village you have to add the distance to your CG it will be a Long days trip!

A point of Coulter Bay (in GTNP) clarification- there are two (2) CG’s at Coulter Bay, One, the “Coulter Bay RV Park” a full service “RV Park” with FHU’S that takes reservations. The other is the “Coulter Bay Campground “ has no hookups and doesn’t take reservations. Both have about 300 sites and are located basically across the road from each other.

Also in GTNP be sure to see Jenny Lake, the water is swimming pool clear! You almost feel like you are in space when you are on the boat dock and you can see the rental boat shadows on the bottom of the lake!

When in the Jackson area I highly recommend seeing the Bar J Chuckwagon dinner show! If you go, MAKE RESERVATIONS and BE THERE EARLY TO PICK UP YOUR MEAL TICKETS/ TABLE SEATING ASSIGNMENTS! They seat you by when you show up to get your tickets NOT by your reservation number. Tim, their fiddle player has won the "Idaho state old time fiddle contest 7 times and the US open fiddle championship twice". If you decide to go you will sit at picnic type of bench seats/table, they get pretty hard, I recommend that you take along a blanket/pads to sit on. We day trip it there 2-4 times every summer just to see them! Disclaimer- We have no financial or other interest in the Bar J only that it will be the best $$ value for your money for your trip! Check out their website.

Bar J Chuckwagon

Also in Jackson check out the “COWBOY” bar, the bar stools are saddles and check out the # of Silver Dollars imbedded in the bar. The Wort Hotel Bar (just around the corner from the Cowboy Bar) also has Silver Dollars imbedded in the Bar
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