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05-22-2016, 05:17 PM
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Skeetsbo has a point. I don't know how many times I've seen a pickup towing a TT with a bed full of stuff. Im not condoning anyone to go over, but people towing TT and loading up there trucks are far worse than a 1/2 ton towing a 5ver. Say what you will, again I'm not saying it's OK to overload but TT 's are overloaded more than 5vers. IMHO
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05-22-2016, 05:55 PM
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From a safety point running a 1/2 ton at max with a 5th wheel is better than max with a TT. But it's still maxed on the weaker 1/2 ton axle. Wear and tear will be greater. A 3/4 ton will last longer and preform better. Why be maxed all the time? I just don't get the logic of maxing you truck out and not being able to take something extra.
I chose a 3/4 ton for my lighter 5th wheel so I could take an extra box of Kleenex if I needed.
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05-22-2016, 10:41 PM
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I must admit I am out of my element here. First timer thinking of a fifth wheel and will need to buy an appropriate truck.
So in reading Ford's brochure on f-250 Max capabilities.( LOL, yeah I know)
16,600 towing
4040. Payload
10,000 GVwR
23,500 GC WR
So how would these numbers change if it was the 2500 with dual wheels on the back?
And how would the fuel mileage be affected? And the towing mileage?
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05-23-2016, 08:20 AM
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Could not edit, but I meant in the previous post how would the max capabilities listed by Ford for the F-250 change if it was a DRW ( duelly).
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05-23-2016, 09:07 AM
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Ford doesn't make a dually F250. You need to jump up to an F350 or all the way to an F450 if you want dual rear wheels (DRW).
You carrying capacity will increase substantially by going to a DRW.
Here's Fords towing chart.
https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...u_r1_nov12.pdf
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05-23-2016, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
From a safety point running a 1/2 ton at max with a 5th wheel is better than max with a TT. But it's still maxed on the weaker 1/2 ton axle. Wear and tear will be greater. A 3/4 ton will last longer and preform better. Why be maxed all the time? I just don't get the logic of maxing you truck out and not being able to take something extra...
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100% agreed. I always scratch my head at these discussions. Just cuz it can pull doesn't always mean it should. And the tow vehicle's longevity is shortened due to maxing it out all the time. But there are many many out there that ignore tow ratings and just go for it. Like you, I just don't get it.
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05-24-2016, 08:26 PM
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On the other hand, I witness far more 2500/250s overloaded with the rear end sagging, than I do half tons.
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05-25-2016, 03:10 PM
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1/2 ton pick ups
I just went through it with 1/2 ton truck my fifth wheel weighs 8200 lb. dry and pin weigh is 1085 lb. I thought I could make it tow better by adding air bags LT tires ,sway bars, shocks. all of that did help but the real fix was to buy a new 2500 chevy it like night and day the 2500 has a bigger engine and transmission bigger rear end brakes are bigger much bigger cooling system I wish I just bought a new truck right from the start
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05-25-2016, 04:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by striper44
I just went through it with 1/2 ton truck my fifth wheel weighs 8200 lb. dry and pin weigh is 1085 lb. I thought I could make it tow better by adding air bags LT tires ,sway bars, shocks. all of that did help but the real fix was to buy a new 2500 chevy it like night and day the 2500 has a bigger engine and transmission bigger rear end brakes are bigger much bigger cooling system I wish I just bought a new truck right from the start
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Thanks for the info
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05-25-2016, 04:39 PM
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Just an FYI.
A typical 1/2 ton truck weighs 5,400 lbs.
A typical 3/4 or 1 ton SRW truck weighs 7,400 lbs.
That is a lot of things being bigger, like frame, brake rotors, bed, engine, gas tank, etc. etc. Park a 1/2 ton truck next to a 3/4 ton truck and look at the size difference. It is easy to see.
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05-25-2016, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve63
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05-27-2016, 09:59 AM
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Saw a very small Cougar fifth wheel being towed by a half ton yesterday. Have also seen a few older looking fivers very small. So there may be a few out there.
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05-27-2016, 04:20 PM
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Quote:
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When I was a lot younger I could always talk myself into doing something dangerous or risky if it meant I didn`t have to spend as much money. It worked most of the time.
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05-27-2016, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by striper44
I just went through it with 1/2 ton truck my fifth wheel weighs 8200 lb. dry and pin weigh is 1085 lb. I thought I could make it tow better by adding air bags LT tires ,sway bars, shocks. all of that did help but the real fix was to buy a new 2500 chevy it like night and day the 2500 has a bigger engine and transmission bigger rear end brakes are bigger much bigger cooling system I wish I just bought a new truck right from the start
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