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Old 10-15-2015, 07:05 AM   #15
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That is odd, how could they test everything with no battery? Mine came with two 27 series.
The converter puts out 12V power which runs everything the battery would.
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Isn't the converter connected directly to the batteries--if you take them out, no 12 volt available, is there?
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Old 10-15-2015, 08:46 AM   #17
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The 12V system just ties together, regardless of the source. Converter, solar panel, batteries, doesn't matter.

Lots of people living in them who don't want to replace the batteries don't need to, the converter handles the load alone.
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Old 10-16-2015, 04:10 AM   #18
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Isn't the converter connected directly to the batteries--if you take them out, no 12 volt available, is there?
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Yes the converter is connected directly to the batteries. The batteries in fact are the center of your 12 volt system. If you don't have at least one battery installed, nothing 12 volt will work even when connected to shore power.
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Old 10-16-2015, 05:50 AM   #19
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Your. Dealer is responsible for supplying you with you initial battery or batteris. Make sure he does..
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Your. Dealer is responsible for supplying you with you initial battery or batteris. Make sure he does..
I don't think they a required too. But it makes sense too, otherwise you get a bad name and don't sell anymore units.
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jesilvas--

"The 12V system just ties together, regardless of the source. Converter, solar panel, batteries, doesn't matter."

Are you saying you need the battery or you don't?
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Yes the converter is connected directly to the batteries. The batteries in fact are the center of your 12 volt system. If you don't have at least one battery installed, nothing 12 volt will work even when connected to shore power.
That's not true in many, many cases.

A converter is, as named, a 120 volt to 12 volt ( actually 13.5 ) power supply. It can supply 12 volts, up to its rated output, without a battery. Modern ones incorporate 3 stage charging.

A battery charger is not designed to do that and needs a battery to regulate the output.

An Inverter/Charger should not be powered up without a battery connected.
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Well l don't personally know antone who dodn't fet at least one battery. I really think they are obligated by the manufactuer. How do yoydo a system Pdi without the battery. I wouldn't even buy it from a dealer like that. If he cheaps out on a battery l can imagine the future service level.
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"in many, many cases"
Does this mean a lot of converters are wired such that if the batteries are not present, the converter still provides 12-volt to the trailer?
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"The 12V system just ties together, regardless of the source. Converter, solar panel, batteries, doesn't matter."

Are you saying you need the battery or you don't?
You do not need it. You can PDI without a battery. Maybe not PROPERLY, but you can.

All 12V functions work without a battery as long as the converter is working properly.
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"in many, many cases"
Does this mean a lot of converters are wired such that if the batteries are not present, the converter still provides 12-volt to the trailer?
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The minute someone says "all", there will be posts about how someone's don't work that way, true or not.

Confirm you have a " power converter ", switch off or unhook the battery and plug it in. See if stuff works.
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"the 12v system just ties together, regardless of the source. Converter, solar panel, batteries, doesn't matter."

are you saying you need the battery or you don't?
yes!!! You need a 12 volt battery in the system or nothing 12 volts will work. Even if you are connected to shore power.

Those who say you don't obviously has never tried it!!!
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Technobody,
That has always been my understanding--was just trying to find out if there are TTs/fivers made otherwise. Not worried enough to go out and try it on mine, tho...
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