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10-14-2015, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Puyallup, WA
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5th Wheel suggestion to fit budget?
So we want to upgrade from our current TT to a 5th Wheel (30-34'), but are having a hard time finding one that fits our budget.
I've seen in several spots that generally you can get 30-35% off of MSRP, however sales must be really good because it doesn't appear many dealers are moving much on price.
Our current budget is about 35-40k. I know this doesn't fit with a lot of the 5th Wheels I see discussed here, but we aren't looking to full time it.
We really like the Open Range's (337RLS), Grand Design Reflection (303RLS), but these are both currently too high in MSRP.
I know the Keystone Cougars can be acquired in our price range, but we aren't keen on their customer service and would rather stay away from them.
Any suggestions for what else to look for in WA wold be appreciated.
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10-14-2015, 02:02 PM
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Mid Atlantic Campers
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Forget new and look for used that will fill your needs and not go over your budget. After my wife had decided that a 5th wheel was what she wanted, we looked over floor plans and what dealers had available online. Any decent dealer will have floor plans and loads of photos for each unit they've got in inventory. I printed out listings for units we wanted to look at and we went to three different dealers. The one we bought was perfect for both of us at first glance ('10 38' 3665RE Montana, Hickory edition) and we bought it three years ago for $38k after some haggling and two different inspections. We've not had any problems from manufacturing or the previous owners. Just goes to show how much depreciation there is in only a couple of years.
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10-14-2015, 03:25 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt Bennett
Forget new and look for used that will fill your needs and not go over your budget. After my wife had decided that a 5th wheel was what she wanted, we looked over floor plans and what dealers had available online. Any decent dealer will have floor plans and loads of photos for each unit they've got in inventory. I printed out listings for units we wanted to look at and we went to three different dealers. The one we bought was perfect for both of us at first glance ('10 38' 3665RE Montana, Hickory edition) and we bought it three years ago for $38k after some haggling and two different inspections. We've not had any problems from manufacturing or the previous owners. Just goes to show how much depreciation there is in only a couple of years.
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We are starting to look at used ones now. Trying to stick between 2013-2015 currently.
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10-14-2015, 03:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Viva Las Vegas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unitlink
So we want to upgrade from our current TT to a 5th Wheel (30-34'), but are having a hard time finding one that fits our budget.
I've seen in several spots that generally you can get 30-35% off of MSRP, however sales must be really good because it doesn't appear many dealers are moving much on price.
Our current budget is about 35-40k. I know this doesn't fit with a lot of the 5th Wheels I see discussed here, but we aren't looking to full time it.
We really like the Open Range's (337RLS), Grand Design Reflection (303RLS), but these are both currently too high in MSRP.
I know the Keystone Cougars can be acquired in our price range, but we aren't keen on their customer service and would rather stay away from them.
Any suggestions for what else to look for in WA wold be appreciated.
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We are trying to do the same. We are looking for used 2011 and up but under $35K. I'm having a hard time understanding where each make/model fits in the quality department. I like Montana and Big Country but then we need to be closer to 2011 to be within our price range. Trying to stay under 35' as well.
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10-14-2015, 09:37 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
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If you order the RV NADA guide that will show you approx. what the dealer paid as a trade in value. I had a trailer to trade up to a larger one and the dealer gave me the exact value from the NADA guide.
You should be able to buy a nice used rig for 25k to 35k.
Good luck
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10-15-2015, 07:48 AM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffr2
If you order the RV NADA guide that will show you approx. what the dealer paid as a trade in value. I had a trailer to trade up to a larger one and the dealer gave me the exact value from the NADA guide.
You should be able to buy a nice used rig for 25k to 35k.
Good luck
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I will have to take a look at that. Currently our trailer is on consignment and we are able to grab it anytime we need to if needed for trade-in.
Guess right now it will be a waiting game for the right 5th Wheel to come up with a floor plan we like. It seems even some of the 2013-2014's are highly priced currently.
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10-15-2015, 07:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wherever we are
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Do you ever check RVTrader.com for pricing and available units?
Also, PPLMotorhomes.com
These two sites have a world of informaition about what current used pricing is like.
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10-15-2015, 08:08 AM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60
Do you ever check RVTrader.com for pricing and available units?
Also, PPLMotorhomes.com
These two sites have a world of informaition about what current used pricing is like.
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Yes, I have RVTrader.com open and checked every day. I did not know about PPLMotorhomes.com however, I will take a look at that site.
Unfortunately some dealers refuse to post any price at all.
With used units is the reputation of a dealer as important vs when buying a new unit? I'm guessing not as much since there is no warranty involved at that point.
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10-15-2015, 08:33 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wherever we are
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You are on your own as to whether the dealer has examined/corrected anything wrong with the unit--some do, most give lip service to what they have done to a used unit. But, those dealers do the same with a new one...
Your best bet is to look at several/many as you can--soon enough, you will become cognizant of a good unit when you see one. Having some pricing from the internet will help to figure out if it is a good deal. Having a trade-in may be a disadvantage, as the dealer will have to make money on yours when he sells it.
Don't know how handy you are, but check out crankyape.com to see what is at auction there--some very interesting units go across their sales lots, but may not be near you to look at first.
Joe
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10-15-2015, 09:38 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 11
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Elkridge by Heartland is what we bought and it's really nice and in your price range. Good Luck in your search, Dawn
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10-16-2015, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibdawn
Elkridge by Heartland is what we bought and it's really nice and in your price range. Good Luck in your search, Dawn
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We were looking at a 29rksa when we first starting looking, but at the time we weren't ready to purchase one. Apparently they don't make that particular model anymore.
The search continues, thank you.
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10-16-2015, 07:19 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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X2 on the Elkridge. Very nice unit for the money. We looked at them before we decided on our Gateway.
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10-16-2015, 11:19 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
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We purchased a new Shasta Phoenix 32RE in March of this year and traveled 389 miles from home to get it. MSRP on this unit was 53k and we were able to get it for well under your high budget number. It was a 2014 leftover and you may be able to do the same with a 2015. The unit has great fit and finish with many details you would be surprised to see at this price point. So far we have spent 57 nights in it and absolutely love it! Check RV Trader for a dealer near you. I promise you will not be disappointed. No, I do not work for Shasta lol.
Just noticed there is a 2016 in Colton, CA on rv trader for under 47k. I bet with some arm twisting you could get real close to your 40k top end. Worth a shot and certainly worth the trip.
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10-23-2015, 11:55 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Be open minded, we purchased a 2003 Holiday Rambler Presidential 34 ft 5th wheel. Has never been turned down in any park due to age. Holiday Rambler made a great Rv. I bought for 13,900 and have never had any issues with it. We are going to buy a bigger 5th wheel soon but would never buy one brand new. Hope to buy one 5 or less years next time but has been great.
Brad
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