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Old 12-25-2017, 07:01 AM   #1
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Adding auto leveling system

Greetings. I知 making some decisions on keeping and upgrading our current 5er or getting a new to us one. One of the key components in our decision making is an auto leveling system.

This rig is a 2007 Alfa See Ya 32 ft with a loaded weight just over 16,000lbs.

I keep hearing and reading conflicting information about this.

I知 needing to get an idea of what having this mod will cost me including parts and labor. At one point I was informed around $3000.00 installed. But now I知 hearing more around $7000.00.

What痴 the story here folks? I知 assuming because of weight I値l probably need a 6 point system...?


Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-25-2017, 07:47 AM   #2
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I have a 38' Lifestyle which is built on a box frame just like that of the former Carriage line. It has a 4 point Quadra Big Foot leveling system. Its very robust and reliable.
I think the determining factor in whether or not you have a 4 or 6 point system will be length of the rig and/or frame strength. I have not seen 6 point on shorter rigs.
You will love having the auto leveling system. Good luck and safe travels.
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I have a 38' Lifestyle which is built on a box frame just like that of the former Carriage line. It has a 4 point Quadra Big Foot leveling system. Its very robust and reliable.
I think the determining factor in whether or not you have a 4 or 6 point system will be length of the rig and/or frame strength. I have not seen 6 point on shorter rigs.
You will love having the auto leveling system. Good luck and safe travels.


Good info thanks. Was your system added after your purchase? If so, can you tell me how much that cost, ballpark?
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Old 12-25-2017, 07:57 AM   #4
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...have no idea on cost, but $3k doesn't buy much of anything these days--$7k might even be low.....it is one thing to install equipment while on the assembly line....after market add-on's almost always cost a lot more for labor--prepare to dig deep......
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Old 12-25-2017, 08:24 AM   #5
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In 2012 I looked at installing auto leveling on a 2011 Landmark. The electric jacks (Ground Control?) costed out at approximately $3000 parts, and the hydraulic jacks (Bigfoot) costed out around $4000 parts, if I remember correctly. $7000 installed is not an unreasonable estimate for a retrofit installation.

I did not install a system on that RV, I came to the conclusion I would not recover a single dollar out of that mod when I sold the trailer.

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Trailer frames are generally lighter with a lot of flex and if you are trying to pick up a side to level side to side you likely will experience excessive frame flexing. Our Freightliner chassis is stiff but there are limits to how much flex you can subject it to without causing damage to body parts, windows, doors, panels, etc.

I would consider the systems on a trailer to be more auto-stabilizing rather than auto-leveling.
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Old 12-25-2017, 09:18 AM   #7
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... I did not install a system on that RV, I came to the conclusion I would not recover a single dollar out of that mod when I sold the trailer.

Brian
We致e traded rigs twice and sold one outright. All of these had significant mods and add on $$. I recovered none of those investments. Mods and investments are for your (the present owner痴) enjoyment and benefit, it will net you at most 10% and typically 0% return when you sell and less than that if you trade.

I知 not wanting to be a 泥ebbie Downer; but rather wanting to make you aware of our experience to help you make an informed decision.

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The Quadra systems were engineered into the Carriage Lifestyle fivers and were standard equipment on 2010 and newer rigs.
Again, frame strength is a huge factor in these jack systems not torqueing the frame.
Here is a link to the Quadra website so you can see the cost. Another benefit of the Quadra system is the lack of fluid lines running all over the place. Each jack is self contained. They have installation/service facilities in MI and FL.
http://http://www.thebigfootleveler....ic-system.html
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I did a driveway install of a manual Quadra single pump system four years ago on a 18K Lbs class A. Material cost from Quadra was just under $3000 and a mobile welder was another $75 to install the four jack mounts and the pump mount. Took me about 32 hours labor for the four jacks, pump unit and electronics.

An experienced shop should be able to at least half my time. Considering a reasonable shop labor estimate of $100 per hour my install might have cost $4675 all up. Round up for inflation and call it $5000 but add another $1000 if you want to go with an auto lever system which makes the $7000 estimate a bit high but in the parking lot of the ballpark.
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Trailer frames are generally lighter with a lot of flex and if you are trying to pick up a side to level side to side you likely will experience excessive frame flexing. Our Freightliner chassis is stiff but there are limits to how much flex you can subject it to without causing damage to body parts, windows, doors, panels, etc.

I would consider the systems on a trailer to be more auto-stabilizing rather than auto-leveling.
The Alfa frames are nothing to raise your nose at. These things are HEAVY.

To the OP, we are approaching the same time you are and are having a tough time finding anything close in the quality department, maybe GD, but its still not quite the same....let me know your thoughts?
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We had a 6 pt hydraulic system from Equalizer Systems in Elkhart installed on our 35 ft 2011 Jayco in 2016. We went to their shop for install, $4767 total. You probably can get by with a 4pt but I don't remember the quote on them.These babies will lift the wheels if needed. Still like em.

I really studied the LCI add-on 4pt electric system & self installing but we needed a trip so what the hey.
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We had a 6 pt hydraulic system from Equalizer Systems in Elkhart installed on our 35 ft 2011 Jayco in 2016. We went to their shop for install, $4767 total. You probably can get by with a 4pt but I don't remember the quote on them.These babies will lift the wheels if needed. Still like em.

I really studied the LCI add-on 4pt electric system & self installing but we needed a trip so what the hey.


Was this a stabilizing system or an auto leveling system? What痴 your GVW?
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Was this a stabilizing system or an auto leveling system? What’s your GVW?
Hydraulic Auto-level system. My 5er's GVWR is 14500. I could have gotten by with a 4pt but wanted a 6.
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Hydraulic Auto-level system. My 5er's GVWR is 14500. I could have gotten by with a 4pt but wanted a 6.


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