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07-07-2005, 06:18 PM
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Appalachian Campers Coastal Campers
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We have a 33-5V Arctic Fox and the toilet is blocked. I have a flush on the black tank but it will not free up the paper around where the toilet dumps. I have tried every thing that I can think of but with no luck. I have run water with the flush for over a hour with no luck. I have put a fish tape down the toilet but cannot free it up. There are two forty five degree angles from the toilet to the tank, making it almost impossible to free it up. I now have the tank to the 2/3 level and a lot of chemicals in the toilet. I always use the flush when I dump and this is the first problem with this fiver. Any Ideas will be appreciated as I am out of Easter Eggs.
Tom
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07-07-2005, 06:18 PM
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Appalachian Campers Coastal Campers
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Location: New Bern,NC
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We have a 33-5V Arctic Fox and the toilet is blocked. I have a flush on the black tank but it will not free up the paper around where the toilet dumps. I have tried every thing that I can think of but with no luck. I have run water with the flush for over a hour with no luck. I have put a fish tape down the toilet but cannot free it up. There are two forty five degree angles from the toilet to the tank, making it almost impossible to free it up. I now have the tank to the 2/3 level and a lot of chemicals in the toilet. I always use the flush when I dump and this is the first problem with this fiver. Any Ideas will be appreciated as I am out of Easter Eggs.
Tom
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07-07-2005, 06:59 PM
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The "many chemicals" comment may be a problem in itself. Rid-X or similar enzyme products should break up a paper clog, as the paper is made from wood, but some chemical products neutralize or kill the enzymes(bacteria). I suspect it's time to suit-up and run a fish tape up the sewer pipe to try and get liquid flowing. First you've got to find a place to put the outflow though(laws Ya-know). If you get the tank empty, or nearly so, you might try a dose of lateral line cleaner(liquid). It's sold at WalMart and hardware stores, and is enzyme type cleaner. I use triple the dosage for my size tank if I suspect a problem in the making, then top off the tank with water. Allow it to "cook" for a week or longer if possible, as the bacteria need time to do their job. They work and multiply as long as there is a food supply, then die off when it is gone or poisoned by chemicals.
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07-07-2005, 07:05 PM
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OK, you have seveeral choices, Pay somebody to clear it, get real dirty by putting a high pressure nozzle on the end of a water hose and inserting it from the outside of the 5vr up the black tank dump and have someone turn on the water as you start to insert it. Oh yeah make sure you are at a dump station and wearing alot of protection because it's going to be UGLY.
You wil have to work the hose in and out of the dump pipes until you break thru to the toilet and clear the clog. The the onrush of black tank will hit you HARD
Before you do any of this try to drain the tank again and this time open the toilet ball valve to ensure that there is are flow into the tank and it isn't flushing because of vacume
Good luck
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07-11-2005, 02:10 PM
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Location: Louisville Kentucky USA
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by diandtom:
We have a 33-5V Arctic Fox and the toilet is blocked. I have a flush on the black tank but it will not free up the paper around where the toilet dumps. I have tried every thing that I can think of but with no luck. I have run water with the flush for over a hour with no luck. I have put a fish tape down the toilet but cannot free it up. There are two forty five degree angles from the toilet to the tank, making it almost impossible to free it up. I now have the tank to the 2/3 level and a lot of chemicals in the toilet. I always use the flush when I dump and this is the first problem with this fiver. Any Ideas will be appreciated as I am out of Easter Eggs. First some questions How do you know its paper? where is the valve to the black tank Location of the valve is it hidden at the end of the pipe on the outside . Do you use the blue stuff. Post it as soon as possible then we can help you on a coarse of action. Skipper entry level over fifty years.
Tom </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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07-11-2005, 04:52 PM
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Appalachian Campers Coastal Campers
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Skipper,
I was using the Tetford stuff but last time I was at Camping World, Myrtle Beach I got some new stuff they were selling. I am not sure the name but it is red. It seems to have done the job. When i poured a bucket of water down the toilet paper came back up. The dump value is on the back left bottom of the tank and the inlet is on the top same side and just above the dump value. It seems I could fill it with water from the spray clean out and it would drain out ok but the toilet was stopped up. I put double chemicals and let it sit after working for it for several days. I can now pour water down the toilet and it goes down just fine. I am going to dump it in a day or two. A local campground is going to let me use their dump site.
I just went out to the fiver and the stuff is called RV Trine. I got a gallon for $18
Tom
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07-13-2005, 03:34 PM
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Location: Louisville Kentucky USA
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Glad you have solved the problem of dumping the tank .After you dump the tank flush several times each time just fill to the very top of the pipe at the toilet . when finished fill the tank with water add a large dose of Enzymes dry or liquid to the toilet let it stand for a few days to work out cleaning the tank pipes valve .when you again flush the water will be a light trans parent with out any oder .Then use the enzymes in place of the blue stuff and no More problems .The enzyme work for the gray drains and gray tank too .Most Home Depot stores have a display on how the enzymes work on inside of pipes ,drained and tanks. I have used the Enzymes for about five years now and no trouble so far .Cost less than the blue stuff and no oder. Skipper entry level over fifty years.
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10-10-2005, 11:25 AM
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I have had this problem a couple of times and solved it with a good old plunger. Get a good one with the extention on the end. Put some water in the toilet, hold your foot on the handle that opens the flapper and keep plunging up and down untill you hear the water in the whole tank swishing around. Then drain and flush tank ASAP. I found it is all in good intentions. Evenyone is trying to conserve water and that don't you enough water when flushing with paper. The pluger really works though.
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