Can I safely tow a 2007 Travel Supreme 36ft 5th wheel with a 3/4 ton diesel pick up?

[raineman]

Originally Posted by stryder222

The truck is a 2006 two wheel drive

Sorry, you need a lot more truck

[PulNSerenity]

Originally Posted by raineman

Sorry, you need a lot more truck

Not necessarily... depending on what truck he has & how it is configured. In '06 GM 2wd 3/4 ton diesel had a max 5th wheel tow rate of 16,100 Ram 13,650, & Ford 16,500.

[Old-Biscuit]

Originally Posted by PulNSerenity

Not necessarily... depending on what truck he has & how it is configured. In '06 GM 2wd 3/4 ton diesel had a max 5th wheel tow rate of 16,100 Ram 13,650, & Ford 16,500.

Tow Rating was a Marketing HYPE

OPs 2006 250/2500 SRW does NOT have the RAWR to CARRY the wet pin of that 14,500 5vr.
PERIOD

[lucky1320]

Originally Posted by IC2

While I've seem folks pull a very heavy 5er with a 3/4T, most have done suspension mods. If it's a gas truck - you MAY run out of horsepower/torque on the first grade plus may end up without enough cooling capacity. Brakes are generally the same as a 1 Ton on the three US made brands. If it's a Toyota or Nissan, not a clue but sure don't see any pulling 5ers that are beyond the Ultra Lights

I have a Titan xd with the Cummins. I can pull right at 14k. My 5'er fully loaded is about 12.5k. Never had an issue and it's the best truck I've ever pulled a trailer with.

[Old-Biscuit]

Originally Posted by lucky1320

I have a Titan xd with the Cummins. I can pull right at 14k. My 5'er fully loaded is about 12.5k. Never had an issue and it's the best truck I've ever pulled a trailer with.

What are the AXLE Ratings as posted on Data Sticker on door jamb?


FAWR.... 4900#
RAWR....4900#


Or do you have something different>
Curb is 2840# on rear.....2060# Total weight on rear axle before exceeding RAWR



12.5k 5vr....pin weight is MORE then your Nissan can carry
14k....not even close




Ever been across a set of SCALES?

[mrgrayaz]

I can get Nissan XDs for rediculously low cost. Cheap. Cheap. They also have about the same power as my old 6.0 powerstroke.

After discussions with Nissan Engineering (really) it was determined the powertrain/drivetrain could easily tow our 16k 5th wheel - however the frame could not handle the increase in payload - the trucks failed durability testing around 200k miles due to metal fatigue/cracking at those weights. Remember this is nearly 50% higher then the manufacturer rated payload and towing #s, and after a "lifetime" of miles.
There is a lot more to towing and payload ratings then "well, it tows fine"


I bought my 2017 F-350 for this reason - trust me, financially I would have loved to go TitanXD

[Rhagfo]

Originally Posted by mrgrayaz

I can get Nissan XDs for rediculously low cost. Cheap. Cheap. They also have about the same power as my old 6.0 powerstroke.

After discussions with Nissan Engineering (really) it was determined the powertrain/drivetrain could easily tow our 16k 5th wheel - however the frame could not handle the increase in payload - the trucks failed durability testing around 200k miles due to metal fatigue/cracking at those weights. Remember this is nearly 50% higher then the manufacturer rated payload and towing #s, and after a "lifetime" of miles.
There is a lot more to towing and payload ratings then "well, it tows fine"


I bought my 2017 F-350 for this reason - trust me, financially I would have loved to go TitanXD

Well even with your 2017 F350 SRW and 11,500# GVWR and likely 7,000# rear axle rating you are pushing the limits of your TV for carrying capacity.

[Edd505]

Originally Posted by lucky1320

I have a Titan xd with the Cummins. I can pull right at 14k. My 5'er fully loaded is about 12.5k. Never had an issue and it's the best truck I've ever pulled a trailer with.

Right from the Titan web site Diesel 11,950. your over weight Surprised the gas makes more HP than the diesel.

AVAILABLE ENGINES V8 ENDURANCE / CUMMINS® DIESEL


TORQUE LB-FT GAS 394 /DIESEL 555

HORSEPOWER GAS 390-hp / DIESEL 310-hp

CC Towing GAS UP TO 10,950-LBS. / DIESEL UP TO 11,960-LBS.

CC Pay Load GAS UP TO 2,470-LBS. / DIESEL UP TO 1,920-LBS.

[mrgrayaz]

Originally Posted by Rhagfo

Well even with your 2017 F350 SRW and 11,500# GVWR and likely 7,000# rear axle rating you are pushing the limits of your TV for carrying capacity.

6480lbs on the Rear Axle last time I hit a CAT scale? 2017+ its a 7230lb RAWR btw.

[LAKnox]

Originally Posted by stryder222

Hey everyone, I am familiar with all other forms of rigs except 5th wheels for full-time RVing. I'm starting out by looking at a 2007 Travel Supreme 36ft (36RLTS to be specific) 5th wheel and I am wondering if I can pull it with a 3/4 ton diesel pick up. I know it's right at the gvwr weight.
Thanks

What year truck? Without knowing all the facts, I'd say "probably not".

Lyle

[LAKnox]

Originally Posted by 1960C182

Can you stop is my question ? Are you at gvwr with rv loaded for camping or dry weight ?

Don't trailers have their own brakes? If they're maintained and working properly, you shouldn't even feel a push or pull when stopping. If the brakes fail, you're pretty much SOL with =any= pickup and FW/trailer of even moderate weight.

Lyle

[LAKnox]

Hey, Old-Biscuit! Fancy meeting you here on my 1st day! :-)

Lyle

[LAKnox]

Hey to you, too, Edd505!

Lyle

[NW Explorers]

You can drive that 3/4 ton to the dealer of your choice and trade it in for a 1 ton dually.