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Old 10-18-2021, 08:41 PM   #1
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Converting to 5th Wheel from Class A

Hello 5th wheelers.....Well I think i am going to cross over to the 5th wheel world after viewing so many 5th wheel campers the last couple years and I think it is what my lifestyle is looking for.

So, first question is: What size truck to tow around say a GD Reflection or a Heartland Landmark? I kind of want a fairly comfortable truck with good electronics.

Second: are GD and Heartland a good choice? I plan on doing a few trips a year and around 2,000 to 3,000 miles.

I love my 2003 Monaco Windsor but seems a bit small after a few days in the RV. Plus, I want a vehicle to daily drive around town.

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350/3500 SRW if 5th wheel GVWR under 16,000#

350/3500 DRW if 5th wheel GVWR is OVER 16,000#
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Old 10-18-2021, 08:53 PM   #3
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Hello 5th wheelers.....Well I think i am going to cross over to the 5th wheel world after viewing so many 5th wheel campers the last couple years and I think it is what my lifestyle is looking for.

So, first question is: What size truck to tow around say a GD Reflection or a Heartland Landmark? I kind of want a fairly comfortable truck with good electronics.

Second: are GD and Heartland a good choice? I plan on doing a few trips a year and around 2,000 to 3,000 miles.

I love my 2003 Monaco Windsor but seems a bit small after a few days in the RV. Plus, I want a vehicle to daily drive around town.

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You will need to provide more specific info. What size trailer are you looking at? The trailer's GVWR will dictate the appropriate size truck.

I suggest you find some floor plans that interest you, from either/both brands and post their model numbers.
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Hello 5th wheelers.....Well I think i am going to cross over to the 5th wheel world after viewing so many 5th wheel campers the last couple years and I think it is what my lifestyle is looking for.

So, first question is: What size truck to tow around say a GD Reflection or a Heartland Landmark? I kind of want a fairly comfortable truck with good electronics.

Second: are GD and Heartland a good choice? I plan on doing a few trips a year and around 2,000 to 3,000 miles.

I love my 2003 Monaco Windsor but seems a bit small after a few days in the RV. Plus, I want a vehicle to daily drive around town.

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Landmarks are heavy units with dry weights around 15-16K. These I know are generally pulled with a 1 ton dually.
https://heartlandrvs.com/brand/landmark-365/

Reflections are lighter in weight, a couple of people I know with a Reflection, 36ft, use a SRW 1 ton trucks.
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...ion/floorplans
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I will be more clearer....The floorplan I am interested in is exactly like this. https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...orplans/375res
I love a separate living room for the most part. Even if i can find a good used one I would jump on it. Truck wise...Well what you think about for this 5th?
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I will be more clearer....The floorplan I am interested in is exactly like this. https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...orplans/375res
I love a separate living room for the most part. Even if i can find a good used one I would jump on it. Truck wise...Well what you think about for this 5th?
Diesel dually gets my vote.
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F250 vote

Since I chose to own a 150 towable 5ver, the F250 is a good match. If traveling where the F350 is not feasible, parking will be difficult. How much truck will depend what you you decide your lifestyle dictates how much rig you need.
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I will be more clearer....The floorplan I am interested in is exactly like this. https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...orplans/375res
I love a separate living room for the most part. Even if i can find a good used one I would jump on it. Truck wise...Well what you think about for this 5th?
Being close to 17K lbs., loaded I would run a dually.

Not only a dually but now start considering what kind of set-up. For example we run a Ram 3500 dually with the High Output Cummins, Aisin Transmission with a 4:10 rear-end. So it is geared to pull a heavy load. Love it for mountain driving in the Rockies, last summer in May.

Then if you are going to do traveling consider replacing the 36 gal. fuel tank with a up grade 55 gal Titian. It is a little costly, $2100 installed aftermarket, but worth the cost.
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As far as the truck goes I would suggest you not to even consider a 250/2500 class truck or a gasser and go right on up to a 350/3500 class diesel. All of the big three (Ford, Chevy/GMC, Ram) are good. The biggest question is SRW or DRW and that depends on what weight trailer you end up with or limits what you get. For example, we pull a Montana with a GVWR of 16,300 lbs with a F-350 Lariat CC SB 4X4 SRW diesel and it does great, even in the Rockies, but we keep trip loaded weight down to around 14,200 lbs (actual multiple CAT scale weights). We are borderline pushing on the weights and a dually would be better.
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One ton diesel without question unless you plan lots of bed weight then 450/550. They are the same size as 1/2 ton trucks so parking is not an issue. With modern designs of 5ers either long or short bed is fine. DRW depending on your anticipated pin weight, DRW do require more parking room and attention to details when solo driving. Puck mount hitch for sure, I've used B&W companion for over 20 years and I think they are pretty much bullet proof. The units you mentioned are both good, I'd also add Northwood to the list.

When we went from a DP to a 5er, life got easier. I can fix stuff on the 5er and a few things on the truck. DP had way too many moving parts for me to maintain. Our costs went down and our when parked comfort went up. DP was better for daily travel.
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For the trailer you are considering, only look at 1 ton DRW diesel trucks. You will see people pulling this size and larger trailers with a SRW truck, but they are over loaded on the rear axle.

When looking at the trailer, ignore the brochure dry weight. Look for the GVWR, gross vehicle weight rating. Many trailer brochures are not listing this, and you need to add the dry weight plus the cargo capacity to get a loaded weight.

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One ton diesel without question unless you plan lots of bed weight then 450/550. They are the same size as 1/2 ton trucks so parking is not an issue. With modern designs of 5ers either long or short bed is fine. DRW depending on your anticipated pin weight, DRW do require more parking room and attention to details when solo driving. Puck mount hitch for sure, I've used B&W companion for over 20 years and I think they are pretty much bullet proof. The units you mentioned are both good, I'd also add Northwood to the list.

When we went from a DP to a 5er, life got easier. I can fix stuff on the 5er and a few things on the truck. DP had way too many moving parts for me to maintain. Our costs went down and our when parked comfort went up. DP was better for daily travel.
I might have to rethink and possibly downsize to something under 16K GVWR. I like to keep it to a full size truck and not a dually. just too big for my lifestyle. A 350 or 3500 SRW would be great. I saw a new 3500 diesel that can tow a big 5th over 16K GVWR...
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