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Old 10-15-2021, 06:49 AM   #29
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Could it be that you don't get it because you don't live 365 in it?

I can come up with several fixes for it... I am just not sure why I should need to. If they screwed up this, how many other things am I going to have to fix because they were playing follow the other guy?
I don't know that I would consider it a screw up because some don't like it.... a lot of people like the window behind the range.... my family being one of those.

I think it's just an option. I don't like the lack of an outdoor kitchen on a rig, so I omitted any that didn't have it in my search. Not a screw up, but instead just an option (or lack of) that I wanted. There are plenty that don't have it, so I would just choose a different unit.
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Could it be that you don't get it because you don't live 365 in it?

I can come up with several fixes for it... I am just not sure why I should need to. If they screwed up this, how many other things am I going to have to fix because they were playing follow the other guy?
If you are going to own an RV then you may need to broaden your ideas when it comes to floor plans, design and maintenance. If you are going to go fulltime then you will definitely need to think outside the box so to speak. There is no perfect universal solution for everyone.
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If you are going to own an RV then you may need to broaden your ideas when it comes to floor plans, design and maintenance. If you are going to go fulltime then you will definitely need to think outside the box so to speak. There is no perfect universal solution for everyone.
I consulted a full timer that has been fulltiming for 5 years. She said the window is stupid. She said that as a full timer, her needs are different than those of a casual camper.

RV manufacturers might consider using focus groups. If the casual and full timers are split, make the item an option. Seems like a simple solution but then again, what do I know.... I think the full time is right.

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We have the window over the stovetop and don't mind it being there. Of course we don't use the stove top. Ever.

We either use an electric griddle placed on the island next to the sink if cooking indoors, cook outside on the Weber, or go out to eat. All far easier than using the stovetop IMHO.

If I were to use the stovetop, cleaning the window over it would be far easier than cleaning the stovetop itself, again IMHO. Personally, I like the additional light source on the service side of my RV so it isn't so dark over there. Depends on floor plan I'm sure though!
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If I were to use the stovetop, cleaning the window over it would be far easier than cleaning the stovetop itself, again IMHO.
Does your unit have the flip up glass over the stove? If it had that, it would not be as big of a problem. The cover would act as a back splash.

If the window was flat, it would be pretty easy to clean. Unfortunitly, the frame is like the channels of the shower doors, lots of places for the grease to collect and it would be really hard to get it out.
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I consulted a full timer that has been fulltiming for 5 years. She said the window is stupid. She said that as a full timer, her needs are different than those of a casual camper.

RV manufacturers might consider using focus groups. If the casual and full timers are split, make the item an option. Seems like a simple solution but then again, what do I know.... I think the full time is right.

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I LOVE THE IDEA OF FOCUS GROUPS !!!!!
I contacted the RVIA association recently and told them the same thing. Not sure if they would ever do this, but I wish they would to get the buyers opinions. i.e. no more crummy pleather material on the rv furniture that fslls apart in a year or two.
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Does your unit have the flip up glass over the stove? If it had that, it would not be as big of a problem. The cover would act as a back splash.

If the window was flat, it would be pretty easy to clean. Unfortunitly, the frame is like the channels of the shower doors, lots of places for the grease to collect and it would be really hard to get it out.
Mine is more of a traditional 4-burner gas range with grates. No glass cover to flip up, but I could definitely see where that would help protect the window.

Also, my stovetop window is sealed, but I can see where grease and crumbs could still hide. Point noted!
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I consulted a full timer that has been fulltiming for 5 years. She said the window is stupid. She said that as a full timer, her needs are different than those of a casual camper.

RV manufacturers might consider using focus groups. If the casual and full timers are split, make the item an option. Seems like a simple solution but then again, what do I know.... I think the full time is right.

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I consulted 2 other full timers besides myself and we all agree that your full timer is incorrect. The window is desired more than loathed.
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I consulted 2 other full timers besides myself and we all agree that your full timer is incorrect. The window is desired more than loathed.
Do those full timers have a stove that has a top that is also a backsplash? Do they cook often? You friends opinion is exactly why I say it should be an option.
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Windows in an RV! There only purpose is to leak heat in or out depending on the temp! One over the stove in our RV would never see the light of day, just like that monster in the back panel - I would guess that all the heat generated by the electric furnace in the living room goes just to nullify the heat lost to that window! And the large one on the side over the theater seating: that large one's shade is never opened.
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The lack of a window for the wife caused her to eliminated many models. She likes the additional light and cleaning blinds is no big deal and done as a regular process anyway.
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Do those full timers have a stove that has a top that is also a backsplash? Do they cook often? You friends opinion is exactly why I say it should be an option.
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I really hate those glass stove covers. They really limit the size of the pot that fits on the back burner and they are a poor backsplash.
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So no windows for you guys then. I would personally never have a unit like that. To each there own.
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