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Old 02-21-2019, 07:38 PM   #1
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Wife and I looked at one of these today. It is a 2016 one of the last built. Data tag says 8K axles.

Wife likes the kitchen I think living room a little small but found it has a lot of storage space.

Looking at the listings on the internet they range in price from $99,000 to $49,000. This one is priced at $69,000.

Anybody here have experience with this model 5th wheel?

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Old 02-21-2019, 07:56 PM   #2
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We have a 2014 LS36fw that we ordered and have been very happy with it.
If the model you are looking at has the rear "trunk/basement" then its still on the in-house built box frame and not a Lippert frame. If it does NOT have the rear trunk (compartment door on rear cap on each side at rear) then it is not the good frame Carriage and Lifestyle made in-house.
Does it have disc brakes as well? We ordered ours with the 8k axle option and disc brakes.
They are well built rigs. Check it over just like you would anything else that is used.
There is an owners forum on-line with a great bunch of people, too.
Good luck.
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Old 02-24-2019, 05:50 AM   #3
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Hi

I sent you a PM.

Can you tell me where the potable water tank is in this trailer?
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Old 02-24-2019, 08:24 AM   #4
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The water tank on Lifestyle and Carriage fivers is NOT between the frame rails like most manufacturers. It literally sets on the basement floor between the forward chin/generator compartment area and the main basement. This was done for better protection in freezing temps.
The holding tanks do hang between the frame rails in typical fashion and are visible from the exterior. They is a plastic cover with a layer of fiberglass insulation encompassing them from the exterior. The tops of them are visible on the back side of the basement wall.
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The water tank on Lifestyle and Carriage fivers is NOT between the frame rails like most manufacturers. It literally sets on the basement floor between the forward chin/generator compartment area and the main basement. This was done for better protection in freezing temps.
The holding tanks do hang between the frame rails in typical fashion and are visible from the exterior. They is a plastic cover with a layer of fiberglass insulation encompassing them from the exterior. The tops of them are visible on the back side of the basement wall.
Hi

Thanks again for the information.

I will have to look into that I am planning on purchasing a new truck (3500) but I am not going up out of the light duty truck to the medium duty truck (4500) because of sizes and getting in a corner where OBDII is not required by law.

Phil & Sally
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Old 03-08-2020, 09:34 AM   #6
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Hello

We have the LS38RS home now and in the process of moving from the Montana to the Lifestyle.
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Old 03-08-2020, 09:34 AM   #7
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The antenna wiring is OK both TV’s work on the antenna.

The unit has a Winegard Traveler on the roof for Direct TV we us Dish.

So I went looking for the coax for the bedroom and living room TV’s. I found the bedroom on behind the convenience center. It and the Living room had been removed from the convenience center panel and put on a splitter for the Satellite receiver. They apparently routed a coax from the living room to the basement behind the convenience center then use the coax from there to receivers at each TV.

All the Satellite equipment has been removed from the trailer except for the Traveler. I have located the bed room coax but I can’t locate the living room end of the coax.

Is there any information about the TV wiring in these units that is specific to the trailer and not just generic?
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Old 03-08-2020, 10:55 AM   #8
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First of all you need to know that Lifestyle are some of the best trailers you can get. Theyíre built to last, heavy and heavy duty. The cable is centralized - the main input is in the wet bay. Plug in there and then use the winguard device. The way mine works, I have to press the button on the winguard, then scan for cable channels on each tv. New these had a list price over $100k and could be got for $80-100. Today the closest thing New is $150k and up. If you want a fifth wheel you can work on and keep forever, this is the one.
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Old 03-08-2020, 10:57 AM   #9
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However, they stopped making them in 2016 and some of the last ones were not built up to spec - some are even missing pieces of equipment. So do look for the Atlas frame - if it doesnít have the Atlas frame, maybe keep looking.
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Old 03-08-2020, 05:42 PM   #10
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Hi Leftys

The reason we purchased this unit was because it has to be one of the very last ones with the Alas Frame. I have the rear cargo boot with 3 doors one in the middle and one on each side. It also has the 4 point Big Foot leveling system. The Lippert frame that some of the last one was built with wont handle the 4 point system.

We have had this less than a week and are more impressed with the unit every day. The door side slide didn’t go all the way out when we got home. Today I got a creeper out and went under the unit to find a zippered panel in the proper location to check the out limit switch to find the lock nut was loose and the bolt that operated the limit switch had apparently vibrated out during the 100 mile trip home. It took me some time to get it back where it belongings but now the slide works properly.

I got the TVs working on our satellite portable antennas today the Winegard Slimline on the roof is for Direct TV and we use Dish. I haven’t made my mind up to convert it to Dish the cost of parts from Winegard is about $300 I may just get a second King portable instead.

Last but not least do you know who manufactured the slide actuators for this unit?

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Old 03-08-2020, 05:59 PM   #11
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The Lifestyle box frame was called "Titan". Easy to spot due to the rear 3-door trunk. https://youtu.be/S3jEfcl4C0A
I'm not sure what you mean by slide actuators. The slides are activated by pressing the appropriate switch and slide room travel in and out is limited by the limit switches for each direction. There is also a bedroom door switch that will deactivate the street side slide if the bedroom door is not latched open.
The slide motor for the dining slide or other non-full-wall slides is in the middle. The full-wall slide motor is near the furnace on the street side.
I had a short in the wire as did another Lifestyle owner I know of so it could happen to others. I did a motor wiring upgrade which made the slide run much, much smoother and with less effort.
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Old 03-08-2020, 09:28 PM   #12
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You may want to join the Carriage / Lifestyle forum - itís an independent website with a lot of good info. There are some fixes for the slides. I found that just changing wire connectors on the motors made a huge difference. Some people change the wires - apparently they used the wrong gauge wire on the slide motors. I highly recommend walking around with a screw driver and tightening everything up. I have removed some of the basement walls for easier access. Iíve replaced the fancy water heater valves - they are nice but delicate. I upgraded to digital thermostats and not much else. I have found some unusual parts like the nice fridge latch and other obscure parts. Watch for moisture in the rear basement. Not many other suggestions - theyíre so well built. Just get familiar with all the systems and keep them maintained.
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Old 03-09-2020, 04:07 AM   #13
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Hi

An actuator is a power unit normally consisting of a drive motor electric, hydraulic or pneumatic and a gear box used for remote operation of a machine like the slide units on an RV.

I want to see just what I have there in case I ever need to repair one.

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