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05-24-2022, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by readog
Just the pullrite slider hitch
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base weight on rear axle is roughly 2600#
you stated weight of rear axle was 3460# and 7500# w/5vr
4040# pin weight on a 10,640# 5vr total weight is a 38% wet pin ratio
Your numbers do not jive......
Re-weigh truck/5vr and post new numbers
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05-24-2022, 03:20 PM
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This what I did to measure the king pin weight of a fully loaded trailer with only the trailer on the scale:
1. Weighed the trailer unhitched from the truck (legs dropped / king pin bumped off the hitch) - 15040 lbs
2. Weighed the trailer hitched to truck - 11,820 lbs
3. Subtracted 1 from 2 - 15040 - 11820 = 3220 lbs king pin weight (or 21.4% of the trailer weight)
Did I get this wrong?
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05-24-2022, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camp CA
This what I did to measure the king pin weight of a fully loaded trailer with only the trailer on the scale:
1. Weighed the trailer unhitched from the truck (legs dropped / king pin bumped off the hitch) - 15040 lbs
2. Weighed the trailer hitched to truck - 11,820 lbs
3. Subtracted 1 from 2 - 15040 - 11820 = 3220 lbs (or 21.4% of the trailer weight)
Did I get this wrong?
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THOSE Numbers are more in line ^^^^
Post #3 you stated
My hitch weight is 4060 lbs according to my calculations.
Post #10
Truck & trailer : steer axle 4820 lbs, rear axle 7500 lbs ,trailer axle 6580 lbs total
THOSE Numbers were NOT adding up^^^^^
3220# pin plus 3460 Rear Axle = 6680# on rear axle
Truck RAWR is 6200 so you are definitely overloaded on trucks rear axle
What is the MAX Load At Max PSI on the sidewall of your truck tires????
Also you show 15,040# as 5vr weight....??
IF this is the 2009 Holiday Alumascape....GRVW shows 14,400
SO you are over loaded on the 5vr also
Changing trucks is not going to resolve that overloading
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05-24-2022, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
THOSE Numbers are more in line ^^^^
Post #3 you stated
My hitch weight is 4060 lbs according to my calculations.
Post #10
Truck & trailer : steer axle 4820 lbs, rear axle 7500 lbs ,trailer axle 6580 lbs total
THOSE Numbers were NOT adding up^^^^^
3220# pin plus 3460 Rear Axle = 6680# on rear axle
Truck RAWR is 6200 so you are definitely overloaded on trucks rear axle
What is the MAX Load At Max PSI on the sidewall of your truck tires????
Also you show 15,040# as 5vr weight....??
IF this is the 2009 Holiday Alumascape....GRVW shows 14,400
SO you are over loaded on the 5vr also
Changing trucks is not going to resolve that overloading
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Unfortunately Old Biscuit, that was not the OP posting new figures....so the mystery continues!
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05-24-2022, 04:11 PM
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Post #16 postscript..........15040 lbs loaded trailer weight < the trailer's 16600 lb GVWR.
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05-24-2022, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camp CA
This what I did to measure the king pin weight of a fully loaded trailer with only the trailer on the scale:
1. Weighed the trailer unhitched from the truck (legs dropped / king pin bumped off the hitch) - 15040 lbs
2. Weighed the trailer hitched to truck - 11,820 lbs
3. Subtracted 1 from 2 - 15040 - 11820 = 3220 lbs king pin weight (or 21.4% of the trailer weight)
Did I get this wrong?
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I will do it the way you did to get the correct numbers. I weighed the truck solo and then weighed the trailer on different days.
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05-24-2022, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
base weight on rear axle is roughly 2600#
you stated weight of rear axle was 3460# and 7500# w/5vr
4040# pin weight on a 10,640# 5vr total weight is a 38% wet pin ratio
Your numbers do not jive......
Re-weigh truck/5vr and post new numbers
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I will do it the way Camp CA did
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05-24-2022, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by readog
I will do it the way Camp CA did
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I will weigh the trailer solo and recheck the numbers
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05-24-2022, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mistercee
Unfortunately Old Biscuit, that was not the OP posting new figures....so the mystery continues!
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That's where I got confused 'thinking' OP was posting new numbers
Semi-hi jacking 
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05-24-2022, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
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This is very confusing to me. I should have bought a 3500 HD instead of the 2500HD for a in bed fuel tank
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05-25-2022, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by readog
My GVWR for my 2019 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax is 10,000lbs according the the driver door sticker. I am over weight by 2320 lbs.My hitch weight is 4060 lbs according to my calculations. Need a 3500 HD
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Your 2500 silverado can't weight 10000 lb.
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05-25-2022, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by buc1908
Your 2500 silverado can't weight 10000 lb.
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The weight of my truck solo on CAT scale was 8260
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05-29-2022, 04:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by readog
The weight of my truck solo on CAT scale was 8260
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Totally possible, its also possible that your truck is a de-rated one too, what's door tag say for the front and rear axle ratings. I'd bet your rear axle is rated for something over 6000 pounds.
Do you have adjustment to scoot the 5th wheel hitch forward to add some load to the front axle.
Also on your TT, are you weighing in with the tanks full? I'm wondering if you can move some trailer weight rearward.
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05-29-2022, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by radar
Thanks. I think our neighbouring province uses combined axle rating in lieu of GVWR but not 100 percent sure. Actually I think there are a few prairie provinces that allow this but again not 100 percent sure.
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Just so rv folks don't get scared needlessly Canada BC province does use a gvwr number for over weight violations.
However that gvwr can be the truck mfg gvwr or the sum of the truck mfg gawrs per BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulations "weight scales" section 19.05 para #4 which states..
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(4) The gross weight of any vehicle or combination of vehicles shall be the sum of the individual gross axle weights of all the axles of the vehicle or combination of vehicles. **
From a previous thread on a couple of other rv brand specific forums some members from BC were up on actually BC weight regulations regarding registering their LDT at a gvwr number. I doubt other provinces are different regarding vehicle over loading violations.
Regarding a 3500 srw upgrade. Newer 2500 GM have a 6390 and 6600 rawr for carrying hitch weight. Same truck in a 3500 srw has a 7250 rawr which can give another 650-850 lb in the bed payload. A rv trailer adds little to non pin/hitch weight on the front axle so its not a concern.
If you have actual 4000 lb on the rear axle only a 350/3500 DRW can safely/legally carry that weight.
Your 2019 trucks rawr is on the cert placard on the drivers side door post.
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