Hitch Weight

[readog]

I would like to found out my hitch weight for my 5th wheel. Any way of weighting the hitch weight for the bed of the truck?

[xrated]

Originally Posted by readog

I would like to found out my hitch weight for my 5th wheel. Any way of weighting the hitch weight for the bed of the truck?

Step 1. Take the truck across a CAT scale...AND...have it loaded up just as it would be when you are getting ready to use it for towing the 5ver....full tank of fuel, hitch in the bed, etc. Add up the front and rear axle weights and that is what your truck weighs.

Step 2. Hitch up the trailer to the truck (loaded the same exact way as in step 1) and drive across the CAT scales. Add up the truck's front and rear axle weight and note it.

Step 3. Subtract step 1 weight from step 2 weight and you now know exactly what the pin weight is.

If the total weight on the truck's two axles, when hooked up to the 5th wheel is MORE than the GVWR number on the driver's side door post, you are overloaded

[readog]

Originally Posted by xrated

Step 1. Take the truck across a CAT scale...AND...have it loaded up just as it would be when you are getting ready to use it for towing the 5ver....full tank of fuel, hitch in the bed, etc. Add up the front and rear axle weights and that is what your truck weighs.



Step 2. Hitch up the trailer to the truck (loaded the same exact way as in step 1) and drive across the CAT scales. Add up the truck's front and rear axle weight and note it.



Step 3. Subtract step 1 weight from step 2 weight and you now know exactly what the pin weight is.



If the total weight on the truck's two axles, when hooked up to the 5th wheel is MORE than the GVWR number on the driver's side door post, you are overloaded

My GVWR for my 2019 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax is 10,000lbs according the the driver door sticker. I am over weight by 2320 lbs.My hitch weight is 4060 lbs according to my calculations. Need a 3500 HD

[readog]

Originally Posted by xrated

Step 1. Take the truck across a CAT scale...AND...have it loaded up just as it would be when you are getting ready to use it for towing the 5ver....full tank of fuel, hitch in the bed, etc. Add up the front and rear axle weights and that is what your truck weighs.



Step 2. Hitch up the trailer to the truck (loaded the same exact way as in step 1) and drive across the CAT scales. Add up the truck's front and rear axle weight and note it.



Step 3. Subtract step 1 weight from step 2 weight and you now know exactly what the pin weight is.



If the total weight on the truck's two axles, when hooked up to the 5th wheel is MORE than the GVWR number on the driver's side door post, you are overloaded

Xrated thanks for the help

[Old-Biscuit]

If that 5th wheel is the 2009 Holiday Alumascape then you need to recheck your numbers

Dry weight is 9300
Dry pin is 2065
Dry pin ratio is 22%

GVWR is 14,400
Wet pin at 22% would be 3168

Wet pin is amount trucks Rear Axle carries......
2019 Chevy 2500 has a 6200# RAWR

How much weight do you have on Trucks rear axle when loaded up?
If over 6200#...then you are overloaded

[radar]

Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit

If that 5th wheel is the 2009 Holiday Alumascape then you need to recheck your numbers

Dry weight is 9300
Dry pin is 2065
Dry pin ratio is 22%

GVWR is 14,400
Wet pin at 22% would be 3168

Wet pin is amount trucks Rear Axle carries......
2019 Chevy 2500 has a 6200# RAWR

How much weight do you have on Trucks rear axle when loaded up?
If over 6200#...then you are overloaded

I have heard that some states and provinces allow the GVWR of a vehicle to be exceeded as long as the GAWR of an axle is not exceeded. Any truth to this? We live in a province where GVWR can not be exceeded.

Cheers.

[Old-Biscuit]

Originally Posted by radar

I have heard that some states and provinces allow the GVWR of a vehicle to be exceeded as long as the GAWR of an axle is not exceeded. Any truth to this? We live in a province where GVWR can not be exceeded.

Cheers.

YES

and now this thread is going to go sideways

[radar]

Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit

YES

and now this thread is going to go sideways

Thanks. I think our neighbouring province uses combined axle rating in lieu of GVWR but not 100 percent sure. Actually I think there are a few prairie provinces that allow this but again not 100 percent sure.

Cheers.

[readog]

Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit

If that 5th wheel is the 2009 Holiday Alumascape then you need to recheck your numbers

Dry weight is 9300
Dry pin is 2065
Dry pin ratio is 22%

GVWR is 14,400
Wet pin at 22% would be 3168

Wet pin is amount trucks Rear Axle carries......
2019 Chevy 2500 has a 6200# RAWR

How much weight do you have on Trucks rear axle when loaded up?
If over 6200#...then you are overloaded

My rear axle is 3460 lbs without the 5th wheel attached & 7500 lbs with the 5th wheel attached.

[readog]

Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit

If that 5th wheel is the 2009 Holiday Alumascape then you need to recheck your numbers

Dry weight is 9300
Dry pin is 2065
Dry pin ratio is 22%

GVWR is 14,400
Wet pin at 22% would be 3168

Wet pin is amount trucks Rear Axle carries......
2019 Chevy 2500 has a 6200# RAWR

How much weight do you have on Trucks rear axle when loaded up?
If over 6200#...then you are overloaded

CAT TRUCK SCALE : Truck steer axle 4800 lbs , Truck rear axle 3460 , Gross weight 8260 Truck only. Truck & trailer : steer axle 4820 lbs, rear axle 7500 lbs ,trailer axle 6580 lbs total gross 18900 lbs

[PulNSerenity]

If those numbers are right, you are dangerously over weight on that rear axle. But I am not understanding those numbers. seems like a lot of pin weight for a trailer that doesn't weigh all that much. Maybe you have a huge aux. tank & a lot of wood but something seems off.

[xrated]

Originally Posted by PulNSerenity

If those numbers are right, you are dangerously over weight on that rear axle. But I am not understanding those numbers. seems like a lot of pin weight for a trailer that doesn't weigh all that much. Maybe you have a huge aux. tank & a lot of wood but something seems off.

I agree, those truck/trailer numbers are way off....but, the truck is still going to be overloaded. GVWR = 10,000 lbs CAT scale weight of truck = 8260. The amount of available payload = 1,740 lbs

[Old-Biscuit]

Originally Posted by readog

CAT TRUCK SCALE : Truck steer axle 4800 lbs , Truck rear axle 3460 , Gross weight 8260 Truck only. Truck & trailer : steer axle 4820 lbs, rear axle 7500 lbs ,trailer axle 6580 lbs total gross 18900 lbs

So you have added 4040 to trucks rear axle (3460/7500) and 5th wheel axles are 6580

6580 + 4040 +20 to front axle + 10,640 Total 5th wheel weight

That's only 1340# more then trailers Dry Weight

Sounds like trucks/trailer wasn't on the 3 Scales correctly
Some of the trailer axle weight on truck rear axle platform???

YES you are over the Trucks MFG GVWR.....who hoo.
But I am not buying that 4040 Wet Pin weight on a 5th wheel that is weighing in at 10,640#

Reweigh............truck/trailer

By the way.......WHAT do you have in the bed of truck?
Tool box, fuel tank, cord of wood, hitch etc

[readog]

Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit

So you have added 4040 to trucks rear axle (3460/7500) and 5th wheel axles are 6580



6580 + 4040 +20 to front axle + 10,640 Total 5th wheel weight



That's only 1340# more then trailers Dry Weight



Sounds like trucks/trailer wasn't on the 3 Scales correctly

Some of the trailer axle weight on truck rear axle platform???



YES you are over the Trucks MFG GVWR.....who hoo.

But I am not buying that 4040 Wet Pin weight on a 5th wheel that is weighing in at 10,640#



Reweigh............truck/trailer



By the way.......WHAT do you have in the bed of truck?

Tool box, fuel tank, cord of wood, hitch etc

Just the pullrite slider hitch