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Old 07-26-2021, 08:14 PM   #1
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How much truck is needed to pull this?

Hi guys, I couldn't answer this and I knew you would. Here are the numbers:

Length 40.2
Dry weight 13,370
GWR 16,800
Hitch weight 2,650

What do you think?
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I would not consider anything less than a 1 ton diesel-powered dual rear wheel pickup.


If considering Ford, I would examine the F450. The front end is commercial grade and the turning radius is smaller than the F350.
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Old 07-26-2021, 09:04 PM   #3
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Anything over 16,000 GVWR====Dually

Length 40.2------Long bed dually
Dry weight 13,370
Hitch weight 2,650----That is DRY pin based on Dry weight===20%dry pin ratio
GWR 16,800------22% WET pin ratio=3700 wet pin weight

For those weights=====Dually
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Old 07-26-2021, 09:44 PM   #4
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Anything over 16,000 GVWR====Dually

Length 40.2------Long bed dually
Dry weight 13,370
Hitch weight 2,650----That is DRY pin based on Dry weight===20%dry pin ratio
GWR 16,800------22% WET pin ratio=3700 wet pin weight

For those weights=====Dually


THIS.
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Old 07-26-2021, 09:57 PM   #5
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Other than the Length, those dimensions are real close to my 5er.
Wouldn't tow it with a 3500 SRW.
My payload is 4800 lbs so I've got some leeway.



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If you are pulling it just a handful of times a year & only a few hundred miles... you MIGHT get by with a srw 1 ton diesel. The best option would be a 1 ton dually diesel.
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I have a 2014 ram 3500 srw CCLB /w CTD, it has a 4306 ccc, my 5th wheel is a 34 foot 12k lbs, I would go with a dually for that size. I am under all my weights but in a wind I feel it, and if I have a blow out on the truck I feel I wont have the stability I would like. A dually is not that much more.
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Yah I was afraid of that. He has a Ford F-350 HD and doesn’t want a larger truck. Knowing him it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get the trailer and pull it with his 350. He doesn’t do internet and he doesn’t do shots. But he does so crazy! Thanks guys and yes… I’m confident I know some of the words you have for him. But he doesn’t plan to travel much. Just from Tampa to Colorado Springs once a year!
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Yah I was afraid of that. He has a Ford F-350 HD and doesn’t want a larger truck. Knowing him it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get the trailer and pull it with his 350. He doesn’t do internet and he doesn’t do shots. But he does so crazy! Thanks guys and yes… I’m confident I know some of the words you have for him. But he doesn’t plan to travel much. Just from Tampa to Colorado Springs once a year!
You can only provide him with information and advise him on concerns

After that.........out of your hands
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Doesn't plan to tow much...just from Tampa Florida to Colorado Springs Colorado?

Nothing less than a dually.

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Hi guys, I couldn't answer this and I knew you would. Here are the numbers:

Length 40.2
Dry weight 13,370
GWR 16,800
Hitch weight 2,650

What do you think?
newer 350/3500 with duel wheels!

your pin weight loaded ready to camp is going to be 3400~3600 lbs NOT the advertised dry weight.

I pulled my 16,800 ~17000 lb 42' redwood with a single wheel crew cab , it pulled the back of the truck around on twisty roads and always made you correct for wind that hit the side of the trailer. I own a duel wheel truck now and its much easier to drive on strait and twisty country roads. Besides the fact that my rear axle on the single wheel truck was 800lbs over weight......

4000 miles of towing every year to not have the right truck would be foolish.
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Tell him once he gets hooked up and fully loaded drop by the CAT scales and get his trucks separate front and rear axle weights....with special attention to the trucks rear axle as its carrying most if not all the load.
This will tell him if his tires/wheels are overloaded. Surely he understands its not smart to over load a tire or wheel.
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I agree with 3500 DRW.
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Anything over 16,000 GVWR====Dually

Length 40.2------Long bed dually
Dry weight 13,370
Hitch weight 2,650----That is DRY pin based on Dry weight===20%dry pin ratio
GWR 16,800------22% WET pin ratio=3700 wet pin weight

For those weights=====Dually
I agree.
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