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Loal · 12-27-2001, 10:20 AM

Hi there everyone. I am trying to get my marathon tires changed out to the new Circle "S" tires, but the only dealer in town has a small tire dealership, and does not want to have my fiver take up all the room of his small lot. His suggestion is to take all the tires off the trailer and bring them to him. Do any of you have ideas of what to put under the trailer that would be safe to rest the trailer upon. I have already tried to put my 2 ton jack stands underneath the fiver, and the weight of the fiver bent the first jackstand. I don't want to do this if it isn't safe. Sorry for the long post.

Thanks,

Loal

33' Shasta pulled w/'97 F250HD

Loal · 12-27-2001, 10:20 AM

Hi there everyone. I am trying to get my marathon tires changed out to the new Circle "S" tires, but the only dealer in town has a small tire dealership, and does not want to have my fiver take up all the room of his small lot. His suggestion is to take all the tires off the trailer and bring them to him. Do any of you have ideas of what to put under the trailer that would be safe to rest the trailer upon. I have already tried to put my 2 ton jack stands underneath the fiver, and the weight of the fiver bent the first jackstand. I don't want to do this if it isn't safe. Sorry for the long post.

Thanks,

Loal

33' Shasta pulled w/'97 F250HD

Boz · 12-27-2001, 10:51 AM

Judging from the size of your trailer, I am assuming you have two axles.

Fellow next to me in the storage yard had the same problem; what he ended up doing was removing the tires only from the front axle of his two-axle trailer, leaving the majority of the weight of the trailer supported by the rear axle tires. He also supported the "empty" axles while the tires were off with stacked-up pieces of 2x8's.

After getting the front tires changed, he brought them back, put them back on the trailer, then removed the tires from the rear axle, following the same process.

Yes, this requires two round trips, but it's a whole lot safer and easier than trying to support the entire weight of the trailer with blocks or some other form of support.

Noticed this is your first post; welcome to irv2.com !! You've chosen the best RV info source that I've ever seen!

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'98 Dodge Ram 2500 Club Cab SLT Long Bed, 4x2, Cummins Diesel, A/T, 4.10 rear, Air Lifts
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Dually Diesel · 12-27-2001, 07:04 PM

The way I look at it is that if the tire dealer doesn't want your 5th wheel in his small lot for a tire change that shouldn't take more than one hour for four tires, He doesn't want your business too bad. Search for another dealer that will will work with you instead of having you do all the work. (Just my two cents worth)

2000 F350XLT/PSD/CC/Dually/Auto/4X4/Pulling a 00 Sunnybrook 31BWFS Double Slide with most options.

mbwagoner · 12-28-2001, 06:45 AM

I agree, they should be able to keep it for the small amount of time needed. When I got my boat trailers brakes redone I left it in the shop for a week, they always stored it inside and never had a problem with it there. (It was there for a week so that they could do it in their spare time and make the price cheaper since I only used it on the weekends I didn't care.)

"99 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 Quad Cab 4x4, 5spd, 4.10 rear: still looking for a camper, but do pull my boat and a 36ft enclosed gooseneck.

Loal · 12-28-2001, 07:50 AM

Well, I decided to get the tires from the same dealer and take them to a bigger shop to change them out. The tires didn't have much wear at all, so the tires were free. Except for the mounting and balancing. The new tires seem to handle the trailer better on the corners than previously.

Thanks for the replies.

Loal

33' Shasta pulled w/'97 F250HD

MMouser · 12-28-2001, 08:01 AM

First things first. Welcome to the site.

You must have your heart set on using this dealer, I would go to the big city and have them installed there if I where you. You are doing his work.
When propping up anything heavy and large wood blocks are the best. You can find 4x4's or 8x8's, look on the back of a large whecker or flatbead that is what they use.
You could build a relationship with a local wrecker or commercial tire service to do this exchange on your property. It is quite possible to find a road service company to sell you the tires wholsale and install them in your yard without even moving the trailer. Let your fingers do the walking or call a truck stop shop for further local information.
Let us know what happens.

Upon Edit:
Looks like you posted the final as I was typing. Glad to see this matter has safely come to a conclusion.

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cwsoules · 01-06-2002, 07:03 PM

I had the same problem. The dealer agreed to change my tires incrementally. I first took him my spare and by jacking up the rig on one side I remove the two tires on that side. I then took these three in for a change. The next day I put them on the rig and took the tires from the other side in for a change out. It took three days but was worth it.

cwsoules
1995 Automate 5er
2000 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab Diesel Auto w/4.10 rear end

96PSD · 01-07-2002, 05:57 PM

They would have the proper jacks to do the job.

We have school buses in our fleet at work here so we have a 10 ton roll under frame jack to do brake and oil changes. This past summer I did a full brake job on my trailer. I put down my front jacks on my trailer about 2 inches off the ground and placed the frame jack under the rear frame of the trailer and raised it while leaving my truck hitched to take the frontal weight somewhat and let the front trailer jacks take whatever was left after the truck squatted down the 2" inches. Placed some 4 ton stand jacks under the axles just as a safety. I would rather try and lift the trailer evenly as possible to not twist the trailer body as much as possible.

96' F350 XLT PSD Crew Cab, 4x4, auto E4OD, 4.10 rear,LWB,SRW,Idle Controller,Viper Remote start/alarm,3" Stan Headers DP,Bully airhorns, Lund modified Fastback, Overhead lightbar, Rancho RS9000 shocks,Wood trim kit, graphics, '95 29RKUG HitchHiker II
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DriVer · 01-07-2002, 06:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Loal:
I am trying to get my marathon tires changed out to the new Circle "S" tires, but the only dealer in town has a small tire dealership, and does not want to have my fiver take up all the room of his small lot. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly my problem as well. I am endorcing 96psd's post. What you need to do is the following. Hook up your truck and put all your pin weight on the truck and suck up the front jacks. I had 2 similiar hydraulic jacks and I jacked up both sides and removed the front axle tires and had them changed. At this time I also brought the spare and it it replaced as well.. I mounted the front tires and then I removed the rear axle tires and brought them down. I felt that this would allow me to have the most stability. I secured the hanging axles by weight rated jack stands just in case. Don't put any weight on the axle tubes, place the jack stands under the spring shackles. 2 trips 5 tires. I think you'll need a 7/8" socket and a breaker bar. Have fun!

Don't forget to check your lugnuts after a very short run, probably before you get on the highway.

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rayw · 01-08-2002, 10:16 AM

Ditto Dually

Julie & Ray

'97 F250 PSD SC LWB Auto 4x2
2002 Carri-Lite RK32

-Dave H- · 01-12-2002, 07:41 AM

In the past, I purchased two "Trailer Aid" ramps, and whenever I've wanted to get one axle off the ground, I drive the other up onto the Trailer Aides, and everything worked slick!

Hammer

98 Dodge2500 4X4 QC V10SB 3.55
98 Newmar AmStar 29KRLC fiver
86 Buick T-Type Turbo Regal

GStream40 · 01-16-2002, 05:43 AM

When I took our 5th wheel (actually it's a 7th wheeler) with triple axles in for Good Year to replace all 7 tires, They used 6 jacks, placed one under each spring pad to get all the tires off the ground at once. Took them about 1 hour to remove, dismount/mount, balance and install all seven tires. They even torqued the lugnuts.
When I service the brakes/bearings, I usually only jack up two tires at a time WITH the truck hooked up to the 5er. I use a 2 ton floor jack and a 8 ton bottle jack to raise them up.
NEVER use jack stands, unless they are the big truck commercial models.
Our 5er weights just a little over 12k when loaded ready for travel.

1997 36' Signature 5th Wheel towed by 1999 Ford F-250 Lariat Superduty Supercab Powerstroke Diesel W/Lange Exhaust Brake, Rhino Bed Liner, 50 gal. Aux. Tank, GCW 19,460 lbs.(Fat but not overweight)

96PSD · 01-16-2002, 06:20 AM

for someone driving by and seeing a fiver at Goodyear w/ 6 jacks poking out from all directions to get your trailer off the ground for that job.

96' F350 XLT PSD Crew Cab, 4x4, auto E4OD, 4.10 rear,LWB,SRW,Idle Controller,Viper Remote start/alarm,3" Stan Headers DP,Bully airhorns, Lund modified Fastback, Overhead lightbar, Rancho RS9000 shocks,Wood trim kit, graphics, '95 29RKUG HitchHiker II
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