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Old 06-02-2020, 03:01 PM   #1
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Max FW Length if Double Pulling

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What would be the max size fifth wheel camper I could get for the following setup:
full size truck with crew cab and 8' bed + FW camper + 18' open trailer with my RZR on it?
I am going back and forth between a toyhauler and the above. But I don't yet have the truck so don't know how much length there is to a long truck in front of a fifth wheel hitch. My understanding is I would need to be under 65' total to be legal, and that would determine how long a fifth wheel I could buy.
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Jay
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Hello,
What would be the max size fifth wheel camper I could get for the following setup:
full size truck with crew cab and 8' bed + FW camper + 18' open trailer with my RZR on it?
I am going back and forth between a toyhauler and the above. But I don't yet have the truck so don't know how much length there is to a long truck in front of a fifth wheel hitch. My understanding is I would need to be under 65' total to be legal, and that would determine how long a fifth wheel I could buy.
Thanks,
Jay

Lots of variables here. The trucks are all slightly different lengths some fifthwheels have more overhang than others.

Rough numbers…
65-18=47
You can probably use 22’ for the truck length
47-22=25
Most of the time you can assume a 3-ish foot overhang
3+25=28

I would think you need to be looking in the 24-28’ range. There isn’t a ton of selection at that size, and fewer that are capable of actually towing that much trailer/toy behind them. You could save yourself quite a bit with a shorter trailer for the RZR.

When I was researching for this last summer, we were leaning hard towards an Jayco Eagle HT. Ended up in a toy hauler.

I’ll throw another curveball at you. Many modern fivers have molded front caps that are fine on a short bed truck. That will save you 2 more feet.
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My rig is 61' long with a crew cab truck and 8' bed, pulling a 34' fifth wheel with a 8' swivel trailer on back.
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:25 PM   #4
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I am sure that the 65 ft max over all length is the only issue you would ever encounter. IMHO
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You will not have a very big 5th wheel if you want to pull a 18ft trlr behind it. What i did when we were trying to figure out what our next rv was going to be was when looking at the rv’s i measured from the pin to the rear bumper and added that to the center of my rear axle to my front bumper of my truck to see what was left. We have decided on a another bumper pull tt and i have the length figuered out to pull behind it. I would not rely to much on rv trip wizard as there is a lot of misinformation on that site.
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Various states have maximum overall rig length restrictions. Some state are 55 feet, some are 70 feet. Check your overall length limits for the states you will travel through.

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...You could save yourself quite a bit with a shorter trailer for the RZR....
I have a four seater, an XP 4 1000, so a shorter trailer isn't ideal in terms of load balancing.
To be honest, the more I dig into this option, the more I'm thinking I'm better off just renting cabins or motel rooms on trips with the RZR.
I do appreciate everyone's comments!
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total length

Crew Cab Short Box
40' Cedar Creek
9' Little Creeker

I'm at 65 feet.

Wisconsin max allowed is 65'

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Crew Cab Short Box
40' Cedar Creek
9' Little Creeker

I'm at 65 feet.

Wisconsin max allowed is 65'


What, beside the bikes, does the Little Creeker haul?
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little creeker

Used to haul just about 1/2 face cord of firewood. (Not allowed anymore)

10X10 Screen room.

pop up Green Bay Packer Canopy

6500 watt Honda Generator.

Grand kids bikes.

splitting mall.

10lb fire extinguisher

50amp extension cable.

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Along with a max length of the entire "assembly," many states also require the towing vehicle to be a minimum weight.
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California has that written about the tow vehicle but its something like 4k lbs. Nothing in that weight range is going to be pulling doubles anyway.
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Crew Cab Short Box
40' Cedar Creek
9' Little Creeker

I'm at 65 feet.

Wisconsin max allowed is 65'

I thought double and triple towing were illegal in Wisconsin? When did it change?
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double tow

It's been legal for a lot of years.


Only change is before around 2015 you needed to buy a permit to do so.

Funny thing is it registered you tow vehicle not what you were towing.

You could purchase the months that you were going to be double towing.

If memory serves me right ti was $5.00 for every month purchased.

You were also restricted to double towing only recreational.



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