Oh Boy not a good start

[mdel747]

hello again

well i solved my getting my ( new to me ) 5th trailer back home with a driver i found
trailer was brought back from Mackinaw Mi to Sw, wisc ,
well he showed up a day early with it ,
the trip down didn't go very smooth as i would of hoped ,
when he called for final directions he said your not going to be very happy
you know he was right , anyway

any information on what i will need to do to fix this , and any tips would be helpful ,

not a good start to a new to me 5th , but i think it might look better in the day light , ya i know ,

any way any one out there do one of these repairs ,


mark

[Midniteoyl]

Who did the damage? Was the diver insured against this?

[mdel747]

no the last owner set him up to help deliver it ,
he never hit any thing , but he ( driver ) also told me he had seen the last owner and his son with this side off/ apart a few years ago , but the last owner never told me about that part he just said he fixed a leak , in the area ,
im not holding my breath on the last owner to help on remedy this as it was a cash deal , but i will contact him after the driver gets back up there as the driver wanted to talk to him about it , seems it happened with in 20 miles of leaving ,

but i have to start in on getting things for the repair never the less , as this is going to north Dakota in 3 weeks for work ,,

As i look at it some 2x2 and the bottom 2x4 is rotted out and i will start by replacing them tomorrow morning just to have a clean start on it , ,

[JohnBoyToo]

That is horrible !

more reason to have inspections done even when you see the vehicle,
much less sight unseen - good luck - can't imagine what that's gonna cost !

[mikell]

What year and brand is it just for a mental note

[RustyJC]

Originally Posted by mdel747

...no the last owner set (the driver) up to help deliver it ,
he never hit any thing , but he ( driver ) also told me he had seen the last owner and his son with this side off/ apart a few years ago , but the last owner never told me about that part he just said he fixed a leak , in the area ,
im not holding my breath on the last owner to help on remedy this as it was a cash deal , but i will contact him after the driver gets back up there as the driver wanted to talk to him about it , seems it happened with in 20 miles of leaving .....

If it were me, I'd be working very hard to unwind this deal and get my money back so that I could start over. If you intend to fix this right, it is NOT going to be an inexpensive or easy repair!

Rusty

[jdpm]

Originally Posted by RustyJC

If it were me, I'd be working very hard to unwind this deal and get my money back so that I could start over. If you intend to fix this right, it is NOT going to be an inexpensive or easy repair!

Rusty

Man, unless you KNEW for sure of this issue and agreed to purchased it with that in mind, there is no way I would be letting this go. I would insist that the seller give you your money back and he get his trailer back. Generally, it is wise to sign a bill of sale stating the "the seller makes no warranty, implied or otherwise, unit is being sold as where is." However, unless you agreed to buy the RV knowing that it had such an issue, I think the seller misrepeswented the RV and you are due a refund. Call Judge Judy!!! Phillip

[Murf2u]

Yup, that's classic 5'er water damage. The dark area at the bottom clearly shows that area had a lot of water over an extended amount of time.

That's a big repair job, all the insulation has to come out, likely the floor in that upper section will be rotted too. All wood that's even a little punky will have to be replaced before you even think about starting to put it back together again.

There's one like that at a dealer near here, both the owner and the insurance company agreed it was a complete write-off.

The repair estimate was nearly double the replacement value.

It did however provide a nearly new a/c unit for my C at a very good price once they started parting it out.

Sorry for your luck, hope you had insurance.

[Mr_D]

Wow, that's not good!
Problem is: did the previous owner know the damage existed (he may have thought it was fixed) and what state laws are involved. Then there's the difference between laws that affect dealers vs private sellers.
Going to be expensive no matter what. Seller will say, cash deal, as is.

[Midniteoyl]

Originally Posted by mdel747

no the last owner set him up to help deliver it ,
he never hit any thing , but he ( driver ) also told me he had seen the last owner and his son with this side off/ apart a few years ago , but the last owner never told me about that part he just said he fixed a leak , in the area ,
im not holding my breath on the last owner to help on remedy this as it was a cash deal , but i will contact him after the driver gets back up there as the driver wanted to talk to him about it , seems it happened with in 20 miles of leaving ,

but i have to start in on getting things for the repair never the less , as this is going to north Dakota in 3 weeks for work ,,

As i look at it some 2x2 and the bottom 2x4 is rotted out and i will start by replacing them tomorrow morning just to have a clean start on it , ,

Thats bad damage..

2 things come to mind IF you didnt know before hand that it was damaged:


1- WHY in the h3!! did the driver not stop and report this damage to both you and the seller when it happened???

2- The seller picked and arranged for the driver to deliver, so even if he didnt know about the damage before hand (or thought it repaired), I would think it is still up to him to make it right.

[Murf2u]

Originally Posted by mdel747

he never hit any thing , but he ( driver ) also told me he had seen the last owner and his son with this side off/ apart a few years ago

As i look at it some 2x2 and the bottom 2x4 is rotted out

Originally Posted by Midniteoyl

..... so even if he didnt know about the damage before hand (or thought it repaired)

IMHO there's no way that level of rot happened in the last year.

If the previous owner "thought it was fixed" the wood would be a year old.

That wood was very wet for a very long time. Especially in Wisconsin where the wood was frozen a good part of the the year and no rotting was occurring.

It seems to me like the previous owner pulled it apart, realized it was in tough shape and ditched the unit on someone.

I met someone in a similar circumstance last year at Lazee Days in Tampa. A huge area of their 'new-to-them' Class A had a bad delamination problem. They had bought it through e-Bay and had just found out the previous owner had taken it to Lazee Days for a quote a couple years but rejected the repair because of the high cost.

The 'repair' that was done was to drill a series of holes in the delaminated area, inject epoxy, then clamp it tight till cured then patch the holes and sell it.

It had only lasted a little longer than necessary to sell the unit before the epoxy let go.

[Midniteoyl]

I agree.. the seller prolly dumped it quick. However, even if he argues he didnt and didnt know, he is still responsible, IMHO, because he also arranged the transport. Either way you slice it, the OP should get his cash back.

[TXiceman]

You might talk to an an attorney about possible deceptive trade practices or wha ever your state has along that line. Have him write a letter to the seller and state you were deceived and want your money back..pronto.

Ken

[JohnBoyToo]

was it bought thru ebay ? contact ebay ....


or did he cross state lines ?!?
Interstate commerce laws come into effect too.....
You have a good case, just be patient and thorough and calm, but persistent.