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LAKnox · 01-16-2020, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wildcat28

Just a couple questions

1. Why would you want to meet or exceed your vehicles capacity, is there no safety concerns about who you might hurt because you are near or over you vehicle’s multiple ratings?

2. Never ever see any mention of braking, brakes are engineered for the ratings on the vehicle, you might be able to pull it but can you stop?

1. Because most of those ratings aren't for safety, but for marketing. Fact, in most states, a 3/4t is cheaper to register than a 1t, and people do tend to think about that. Another fact is that most 3/4t trucks use common suspension parts with their 1t brothers. Also, it helps keeps lawyers in business...

2. Well, in most states, you have to have trailer brakes > 3k GVW, so trailers are designed to stop themselves and the TV's brakes should have little to do with it. If the trailer brakes go out, even on a semi, you're pretty well likely to be in trouble in a hard stop.

Lyle

LAKnox · 01-16-2020, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Linda Bohr

If you are overweight and have an accident, will your insurance balk? If an accident is your fault, someone is badly hurt in the other vehicle, are you risking being put in financial danger not only for the other vehicle and passengers but your own damages? That would be too risky for me. I see so many pickups pulling 5ers where the load is too much on the Pu bed, or they don't know how to hitch, or something looks as if it could happen at any time. I try to get around before it does. Just asking.

You can't fix stupid, and there =are= a lot of stupid RVers out there. We see them nearly every day, where the truck looks like a set of spotlights looking for German bombers in London. Makes me wonder why LEOs don't pull =those= morons over.

Lyle

Jstamm2001 · 02-02-2020, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 450Donn

I just LOVE people claiming they pull a 40 foot 15,000+ pound plus fiver with a 250/2500 with no problems. Its obvious they have never driven across a set of scales in their travels. Otherwise they would have upgraded to a truck more capable of handling the load.

I agree- I have a one ton diesel with decent payload and I’m still limited in what I can legally tow. Gvwr of 15,000 would be too heavy. Probably be safer with a dually.

consolenut · 02-02-2020, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LAKnox

You can't fix stupid, and there =are= a lot of stupid RVers out there. We see them nearly every day, where the truck looks like a set of spotlights looking for German bombers in London. Makes me wonder why LEOs don't pull =those= morons over.

Lyle

To put it mildly in OK they will and they do. Can you say portable scales and overweight ticket. See a couple astronomical tickets. Court and reduction didnt help. under active enforcement. if cop dont have scales off to a scale house they go. any officer any vehicle on any road the law states.

consolenut · 02-02-2020, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Garyp4951

This type of advice is your thoughts, and is not accurate, and should not be posted.
You have in no way helped the OP by giving her false information.
You are saying a 2018 Ram 2500 should not tow a 10k FW, which is laughable to say the least.

will it tow yes. will it be overloaded on the rear axle weight rating yes. is it a good idea no. will helper springs or airbags help yes but legally increase gvw no. so most of what wad stated is correct

consolenut · 02-02-2020, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadglide54

If there dumb enough to pull through a set of truck scales I guess. I have traveled all over America and have never seen rv pulled over along the truck scales being inspected by Leo . I will say if the op doesn’t exceed the tire raiting of 6500 lbs gvwrr it will be safe .

To put it mildly in OK they will and they do. hradlight pointed to sky truck bumper dragging the road. Can you say portable scales and overweight ticket. Seen two astronomical tickets. Court to fight it and ask reduction didnt help. under active enforcement. if cop dont have scales off to a scale house they go. any officer any vehicle on any road the law states. one i know got snippy when officer ask to see sticker on the door. ok fine next person to show up was a game warden. search everything. tore rv apart. emptied store compartments everything. end of it a nasty fine 2800 pounds over weight on axle weight ratings. first thousand is 208 and over that $1.50 a pound.

ended the arizona winter snowbird trip. back home he went

drfife · 02-02-2020, 01:57 PM

I've never heard a first hand report of a LEO weighing a private RV and issuing a citation for being over weight. Every story is from second hand sources. Hummm....

Rhagfo · 02-03-2020, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LAKnox

You can't fix stupid, and there =are= a lot of stupid RVers out there. We see them nearly every day, where the truck looks like a set of spotlights looking for German bombers in London. Makes me wonder why LEOs don't pull =those= morons over.

Lyle

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Originally Posted by consolenut

To put it mildly in OK they will and they do. Can you say portable scales and overweight ticket. See a couple astronomical tickets. Court and reduction didnt help. under active enforcement. if cop dont have scales off to a scale house they go. any officer any vehicle on any road the law states.

Well they need reasonable cause to pull your over. I asked that question of a former Oregon State Police member, He stated the unit needs to look overloaded big squat or flattened tires.

He stated I would not get pulled over based on my look, with out air bags.

This is the same 5er loaded the same way, neither of the tow vehicles have air bags.

This is with the old 2001 Ram 2500, 8,800# GVWR 10,500# GVW! The 5er has a 2,700# pin and 12,500# GVW. We are 1,700# over GVWR!

This is our new 2016 Ram 3500 DRW, 14,000# GVWR have not scaled with 5er attached, but scales 10,000# ready to hook up. That means about 12,700# GVW hooked up, 1,300# of spare payload!

While I don't recommend to others to tow over GVWR, I did it for about 5 years without issue.

Yosemite77 · 02-04-2020, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhagfo

Well they need reasonable cause to pull your over. I asked that question of a former Oregon State Police member, He stated the unit needs to look overloaded big squat or flattened tires.

He stated I would not get pulled over based on my look, with out air bags.

This is the same 5er loaded the same way, neither of the tow vehicles have air bags.

This is with the old 2001 Ram 2500, 8,800# GVWR 10,500# GVW! The 5er has a 2,700# pin and 12,500# GVW. We are 1,700# over GVWR!

This is our new 2016 Ram 3500 DRW, 14,000# GVWR have not scaled with 5er attached, but scales 10,000# ready to hook up. That means about 12,700# GVW hooked up, 1,300# of spare payload!

While I don't recommend to others to tow over GVWR, I did it for about 5 years without issue.

How do you like the way your dually tows your 14k lb trailer in comparison to your old SRW truck?

Rhagfo · 02-04-2020, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Yosemite77

How do you like the way your dually tows your 14k lb trailer in comparison to your old SRW truck?

Like a dream!
The old had towing, Camper and optional larger tire size, so did well with the weight. It had RV275 injectors and a small chip, but with likely still less than 300 hp, 3.55's, and a 5 speed manual it worked a bit of steeper hills.
Both are Laramie trim, but that level is WAY better in the new TV.

The power in the new Ram is awesome, and the DRW adds to the stability. The Aisin is smooth as silk.