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Old 10-25-2021, 11:00 AM   #1
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On getting our 5th Wheel in trouble

Hi guys, Ive got a new 5’er coming in December and want to see what you guys are using to keep you on the right road?

I’ve been using CoPilot for about 3 years and have been generally happy with it. But twice now in the last month it’s let me down. Once going to an auto dealership where it actually routed me behind the dealership. If I’d have been in my 40’ Coach I’d have been in a small degree of trouble. But if I’d have been towing a 42’ 5’er I could have been in real trouble.

The other time I was going to a VA hospital. It took me to a hospital on the same street but not the VA. I double checked the address I put in and it was correct. It was another mile down the street.

I want a GPS app with “Off Line Maps”! NO dedicated device like Garmin etc. Do you use RV life by any chance? I know you can put in your RV information which is critical and has off line maps. But will it lead me down the wrong road?
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Weíve been using a Garmin RV890 GPS when we tow our 35í Montana fiver and have been extremely happy with it. Very fast response on a large screen and so far it has not lead us astray in several thousand miles of use. It factors in your unit height, width, length, total rig length and weight among other things.
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bfisher003, Thanks for your post but Garmin etc will not work for me. We spend a lot of time in SD, CO. WY and MT. There are far too many times when the Garmins and Tom-Tomís of the would will not function.

I want an App with off road maps so I donít have to deal with the areas of no service. Maybe no big deal in a car but that all changes in an RV.

What Iíd really like to know is if RV Life works effectively?
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bfisher003, Thanks for your post but Garmin etc will not work for me. We spend a lot of time in SD, CO. WY and MT. There are far too many times when the Garmins and Tom-Tomís of the would will not function.

I want an App with off road maps so I donít have to deal with the areas of no service. Maybe no big deal in a car but that all changes in an RV.

What Iíd really like to know is if RV Life works effectively?

Okay, I see your point if itís off road mapping you are looking for. We used to live in CO and spend a good part of our RVíing all those states you mentioned. The Garmin has worked well for us, but other boondocking some we donít do off roaming. Good luck.
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I use Gaia for off-roading. You can download maps, make routes, etc. I donít know if it can account for height and weight restrictions but it is good otherwise.
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BTW - no GPS mapping software is going to be fool proof and the same hospital mistake can happen with anything.
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Hi guys, Iím sure youíre right, nothing seems to be 100%. But some can sure get you in trouble.
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I use google maps for routing. It has where you can save the maps that cover your route, but I have never used it.

For true offline maps or off roading I use OnX, but it does not do routing.

Neither has ever routed me wrong. The reason is I check the route and stick to it. If there is a suggest detour either I do not take it, if I have a co-pilot have them check or pull over and check. Also when looking at access I ask myself if I see semi trucks there or if it looks like they deliver there. Again if the answer is no, I do not go.

The only time I have been "routed wrong" was my fault or my co-pilot fault, never the technology. There have been a few of those. Always have a "what if" plan in a big rig.
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I thought Gamin and Tom Tom used satalites. They should would everywhere. It is Google maps that does not work if you are out of coverage.
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Hi guys, I don’t mean off roading. In the mountains you can’t get a signal in many areas we travel. Like Clark Wyoming and the Bear Tooth mountain range etc.
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I don't think you're going to better than Co Pilot for offline maps. The 2 times it let you down sound like metropolitan areas. There you can always back up with Google Maps.
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When we FT'd I tought Garmin would be a good thing

After Miss Garmin (recalculating...annoying) sent me down wrong road Twice I stuffed her in a bag/gagged her and went back to Good Ole Paper Maps
Traveled coast to coast, border to border, up-down zig zag all over the USA using ONLY secondary/back roads and Paper Maps

One road ...left turn in 500 yards...approaching your turn---turn left now
Beautiful tree lined road....right into an OLD Cemetery
Had to drive/maneuver thru/around gravestones, large pine trees, and narrow roadway.

2nd time.....road went into the woods, then along a creek then wide open spaces......which was heavy construction area putting in a Pipe Line
Road went to dirt then sand.
Fun Fun Fun

Paper Maps...Old School even to this day.
*I like reading maps!!!
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Hi vyndance, The problem is you donít know itís wrong until you get there. Then you need another GPS to get you out of the mess. No problem with a car, you pull over into a parking lot and look up in another GPS. Not so easy in a 40í Coach or 42í 5íer.
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WoW Old-Biscuit, you are a party animal! But I get your point. I have a new truckers map atlas that I review. But I hope I don’t have to go fully that direction.

The GPS that has bailed me out, much to my surprise, is Maps that comes with the iPhone. Maybe that’s what I need to do is double check the end of the rout with Apple Maps or Google Maps etc. My problem always comes at the end of the rout so maybe that’s the answer?
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