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11-27-2021, 07:33 AM
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Reese goose box......
Getting the unit with a straight steel pin box on it........ That needs improving.
I like the goose box idea. I have the puck system in the back, and the goose ball in a suit case is ready to go. Easy peasy. So looking at the Reese goose box.....The bigger one is good for 20K. My GVWR is 20K........Pin weight up to 4K.....I should stay under that with some care......
Why don't I feel warm and fuzzy about that.......
I know, the GenY for me would be 3.5 to 5.5K tongue weight and 25K GVW.... Plenty of margin there. But there is the warranty issue, although GenY swears there have been no actual cases where LCI refused warranty and the only reason they are being difficult is because they want the distribution rights which the GenY people don't want to give them......
Decisions, decisions.
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11-27-2021, 09:52 AM
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Personally, my feeling is to stay with a normal 5th wheel hitch and avoid Gen Y and Goose Box. If keeping a clear bed is an issue, get the B&W Turn over ball and companion hitch.
If you want air ride on the hitch, look at an Air ride pin box.
Ken
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11-27-2021, 08:48 PM
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Do a search for the Reese Goose Box and you will find several discussions. I would not be without mine.
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11-27-2021, 09:01 PM
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Lippert has their OWN version....Goosebox Connect
Personally I would go with the Gen Y before either the Reese or Connect Versions
Lippert Warranty is a joke and only for 1 year.
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11-28-2021, 08:11 AM
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Old-Biscuit
Why Gen-Y over Reese Goosebox?
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11-28-2021, 09:34 AM
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Either of the Goose Neck will add additional stress to the frame at the attachment point. Reese claims otherwise, but I disagree. All they have added is a cushion to the vertical component of the load.
I still recommend sticking to the standard 5th wheel pin box unless the trailer frame is specifically designed for a goose neck type hitch.
I know many others disagree with me, but that is their option. All I can add is good luck.
Ken
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11-28-2021, 11:50 AM
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GenY....articulation is straight up/down W/O adding torque to pin box or pin box frame/structure
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11-28-2021, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
GenY....articulation is straight up/down W/O adding torque to pin box or pin box frame/structure
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That is on the vertical component. There is still a horizontal component to the pulling force. The lever arm on this is longer than the 5er hitch.
Ken
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11-28-2021, 12:55 PM
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Some don't like changes
I am not a fan of goose neck adpaters but redesigned goose pin boxes have come a long way
Use them...don't use them
Personally choice...ain't it grand!
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11-28-2021, 04:41 PM
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I have the Goosebox as it was the only one available when I did my set up. If the Gen Y was available I would have likely chose that one.
While I am happy with my Goosebox overall, I do have to check the air pressure and typically add 5-10 lbs every time we hook up. With the old TV it was a bit of a pain to drag the compressor out to fill, with the new TV I have a hose reel mounted on the back of the cab which makes filling it very easy.
Ultimately how long is your frame going to be under warranty? 1 maybe 2 years. From a functional standpoint both units function the same. There are lots of threads on why the Reece was approved and the GenY has not and like most things it is politics.
On the subject of keeping the bed clear, sure you could use other hitches you have to take in and out, but it depends on how you travel and what you want to do. I personally do not want to mess with taking things in and out of the bed of my truck, often might be every day or two. I will pass, I did explore those options.
As for the stress factor there are a lot of these units out there. So far I have only ever been able to find one incident (posted far and wide) with the Goosebox. If this had a high failure rate it would be plastered all over the internet.
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11-28-2021, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nwcid
I have the Goosebox as it was the only one available when I did my set up. If the Gen Y was available I would have likely chose that one.
While I am happy with my Goosebox overall, I do have to check the air pressure and typically add 5-10 lbs every time we hook up. With the old TV it was a bit of a pain to drag the compressor out to fill, with the new TV I have a hose reel mounted on the back of the cab which makes filling it very easy.
Ultimately how long is your frame going to be under warranty? 1 maybe 2 years. From a functional standpoint both units function the same. There are lots of threads on why the Reece was approved and the GenY has not and like most things it is politics.
On the subject of keeping the bed clear, sure you could use other hitches you have to take in and out, but it depends on how you travel and what you want to do. I personally do not want to mess with taking things in and out of the bed of my truck, often might be every day or two. I will pass, I did explore those options.
As for the stress factor there are a lot of these units out there. So far I have only ever been able to find one incident (posted far and wide) with the Goosebox. If this had a high failure rate it would be plastered all over the internet.
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I always deflate mine before unhooking. I have found it takes less raising of the front jacks to clear the ball if I deflate first. I haven't noticed any leaking.
As far as failures that one incident was due to a road hazard if I remember correctly which also damaged the guy's truck. The Box was introduced in 2012 so I think one known complaint in almost 10 years is a pretty good record. Most hitches, no matter the type, as far as I know have a pretty good record so nothing unusual with that. Depends on what you want and how much you're willing to spend.
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11-29-2021, 07:07 AM
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Do you need a compresor to fill with air or is bike pump enough?
What psi are we looking at?
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11-29-2021, 07:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Latitude
Do you need a compresor to fill with air or is bike pump enough?
What psi are we looking at?
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I use a Viair 12 volt compressor to air mine. There is an indicator bar that tells when you have the right pressure so I've never checked the actual pressure. I think I read it is around 45 pounds or so. I would think a decent 12 volt compressor could do it. A hand pump might work but I'm too lazy to do that.
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11-29-2021, 07:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
Lippert has their OWN version....Goosebox Connect
Personally I would go with the Gen Y before either the Reese or Connect Versions
Lippert Warranty is a joke and only for 1 year.
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That unit by Lippert only fits a specific frame style. Not the more common versions.
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