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Old 02-15-2017, 06:38 PM   #29
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Seems like I am always seconding what Cummins says, but he is right on the 4.10s. We towed a DRV 38TKSB3 that was pretty light as far as DRV goes...it was about 17.500#. I towed it with a 2012 Ram Dually with 4.10s and a 2015 Ram Dually with 3.73s. I now have a SRW 3500 with 3.42s towing a 14,000# Arctic Fox.

The DRV was fine behind either of the duallys, but the 3.73s made it tough to find the correct engine rpm at a good speed. Either going too fast or too slow to put the engine around the torque peak. The 4.10s were good in 6th and the 3.42s are good in 5th. I would buy the 3.42s over 3.73s any day of the week.

I have never owned an Aisin, but if I was towing at the weight you will be, I would have one. You will love that truck! You have equipped it correctly!!
Good information here, thanks.
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With that new truck you will want to have the two inch suspension riser installed with the MorRyde IS suspension. You will need it for bed to trailer overhang clearance.
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So, I haven't been able to find a list of differences between the Elite and Mobile Suites. Have you?

(Done deal with my truck, 4.10 with rear air suspension.)
I would contact Alicia at Rolling Retreats. We drove from NW WA to Elk city, OK on New Years Day 2015 arrived a few days later. We stayed at their business with hookups. We spent 3 days with Alicia looking at the DRV's they had on their lot and discussed lots of options and designs. We left there with a really good price on our custom RV and a good trade in on our 07.5 MS.

GET the 2" risers!!! also the MORryde IS 9K axles.

Go to rollingretreats.com scroll down to happy customers scroll down on left side red kenworth in pic with our RV 2016 Mobile Suites 39 TKSB3. Lots of pics.

We have Elite flooring, woodwork, countertops, LOTS of upgrades like 3 AC's, GEN.
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I would contact Alicia at Rolling Retreats. We drove from NW WA to Elk city, OK on New Years Day 2015 arrived a few days later. We stayed at their business with hookups. We spent 3 days with Alicia looking at the DRV's they had on their lot and discussed lots of options and designs. We left there with a really good price on our custom RV and a good trade in on our 07.5 MS.

GET the 2" risers!!! also the MORryde IS 9K axles.

Go to rollingretreats.com scroll down to happy customers scroll down on left side red kenworth in pic with our RV 2016 Mobile Suites 39 TKSB3. Lots of pics.

We have Elite flooring, woodwork, countertops, LOTS of upgrades like 3 AC's, GEN.
Second person on this thread advising Rollingretreats.com. I contacted them.

Third person recommending the 2 inch risers! An obvious necessity!

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The IS will come on the DRV; the 2" riser needs to be ordered, not added later--much less cost.
As Cummins said, DRV 'dry weights' are extremely understated. I just got a 2015 38RSSA that was stated as being 16300 'dry'--I weighed it as soon as a got to a scales and the trailer itself was 18020 with only about 300lbs of personal stuff. I don't know of any way to find out the actual delivered weight if DRV won't tell you before delivery, but their literature is way off on this. I THINK this is because their 'dry weight' is a bare bones model that doesn't exist because there are 2 or 3 'forced options' that you HAVE to get.
You can take a Suites model and add some Elite options--I do not think the Elite is worth the extra cost, nor the extra weight.
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The IS will come on the DRV; the 2" riser needs to be ordered, not added later--much less cost.
As Cummins said, DRV 'dry weights' are extremely understated. I just got a 2015 38RSSA that was stated as being 16300 'dry'--I weighed it as soon as a got to a scales and the trailer itself was 18020 with only about 300lbs of personal stuff. I don't know of any way to find out the actual delivered weight if DRV won't tell you before delivery, but their literature is way off on this. I THINK this is because their 'dry weight' is a bare bones model that doesn't exist because there are 2 or 3 'forced options' that you HAVE to get.
You can take a Suites model and add some Elite options--I do not think the Elite is worth the extra cost, nor the extra weight.
Points well taken about stated weights and I will indeed post my results here when I have them.

But now I have to bite the bullet and ask after so many references. What ARE 2" risers, where are they installed and what is the problem if I don't have them? I believe everybody, but what are they?
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Sorry that we take some things for granted...
2" riser is a 2" sq tubing spacer between the bottom of the frame and the IS suspension. In effect, it raises the trailer 2" to help with clearance on the new high-bed pickups. If you had a new GM or Ram, you need it for sure. And I believe I have heard it is needed on the '17 Fords.
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......As Cummins said, DRV 'dry weights' are extremely understated.....
This is interesting as I have read the same thing on other forums on the ole interweb. Our experience with a 358TKSB3 was different. It was close to the listed dry weight when empty and fully loaded while we were living in it, it was 700# under gross. Best I remember, the Gross Rating of the trailer was 18,300# and ours weighed 17,600 loaded. So ours seemed to have been lighter for some reason.

We no longer have the trailer though....
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Sorry that we take some things for granted...
2" riser is a 2" sq tubing spacer between the bottom of the frame and the IS suspension. In effect, it raises the trailer 2" to help with clearance on the new high-bed pickups. If you had a new GM or Ram, you need it for sure. And I believe I have heard it is needed on the '17 Fords.

Here is my rig at MORryde getting 3" risers added.

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Here is my rig at MORryde getting 3" risers added.

Does the MORryde have a oil bath hub or greased bearings?

On a side note and PM me if this takes the thread too far off topic... I believe you mentioned in another thread that you liked Bilstein shocks for your TV. I have been looking and cannot find a listing for our trucks with factory rear air suspension. Have you changed out the factory shocks on your truck?
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rampowerwago,
By the model number, you had a Tradition? They are built differently, but still interesting that it came out under the factory weights.
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Does the MORryde have a oil bath hub or greased bearings?

On a side note and PM me if this takes the thread too far off topic... I believe you mentioned in another thread that you liked Bilstein shocks for your TV. I have been looking and cannot find a listing for our trucks with factory rear air suspension. Have you changed out the factory shocks on your truck?
I believe they will do whatever you want, grease or oil bath.

Bilstein does NOT have a shock for the factory rear air ride system. Honestly if they did I don't think I would change. The factory shocks are top quality US Made Nitrogen. I replaced the fronts to help with reverb after hitting a chuckhole.
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You probably will have over 5,000 lbs pin weight with that MS. With cargo, fuel, hitch and passengers you may be close to your payload rating. I know I am.
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My DRW comes in at 5560 payload.

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