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05-17-2018, 07:19 PM
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Excel Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Short 5th wheeler, under 25 ft?
We have a 32ft 5th we love, but sometimes its a bit too big to take some places. So we are starting to think about getting a second shorter 5th. It would need to be under 25 ft overall to fit into the required storage space.
I'd prefer a used unit for a variety of reasons. We would be towing with the same truck, 2007 RAM 3500 turbo diesel with 4.1 gears so weight is of no real issue in a short 5th.
What are some of the "better" models out there? Older is fine if in good shape.
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2007 Excel Classic 30RSO & Coach House 272XL E450
2007 RAM 3500, Diesel, 6Spd Auto, SWD, 4x4, CC & LB
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05-17-2018, 08:43 PM
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I would think you will get more internal cubic footage getting a TT as apposed to a FW.
The biggest advantage to a FW is how the heavy weight is connected. You have plenty of truck and are going small enough that a bumper pull makes more sense. TT are more plentiful in that size and cheaper too.
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05-17-2018, 09:26 PM
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We are considering TTs as an option. However, a short 5th gives more living space for total overall length, truck front to trailer rear and that is a significant factor in this process.
At this point we're just trying to get a good handle on short 5th wheelers. I've already got a good feeling for shorter TTs.
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Fred & Denise (RVM157) New Mexico
2007 Excel Classic 30RSO & Coach House 272XL E450
2007 RAM 3500, Diesel, 6Spd Auto, SWD, 4x4, CC & LB
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05-18-2018, 06:03 AM
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Grand Design and Winnebago both have 5th wheel models that are short. Around 27ft if I remember correctly.
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05-18-2018, 08:36 AM
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Hard to get much shorter than this and still be usable.
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...oorplans/220rk
Ours is 27'10" and serves us well after many mods. I could've even made things shorter when I bought our present truck (CC LB) but didn't want to give up bed space.
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05-18-2018, 09:56 AM
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Escape 5.0TA. You will have a tough time finding a used one and your truck would be massive overkill. High quality but small.
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05-18-2018, 01:21 PM
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My wife and I just looked at a Winnebago Minnie Plus 27' and 30'. It seemed to have been fairly well constructed and fair quality (just based on a quick walk through), but soooo small. I don't think I'd want to stay in it for more than a week at a time. It might be nice to have if I just wanted to travel to see the country on a fast pace, not staying at any one place more than two or three days. Or perhaps to pull up to the local CG once or twice a year, for some one who didn't intend to use the RV that much.
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05-19-2018, 09:50 AM
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I guess everyone has different desires when they take their RV's out. The wife and I go to places where we can enjoy the outdoors, not sit inside all day.
We do forest service CG's, State parks and RV parks. Unless it's flat out raining we almost never sit inside all day. Even if we had 36-40' 5th wheel we wouldn't just sit in it. We go months sometimes without hardly sitting in our recliners during the summer.
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05-19-2018, 10:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
I guess everyone has different desires when they take their RV's out. The wife and I go to places where we can enjoy the outdoors, not sit inside all day.
We do forest service CG's, State parks and RV parks. Unless it's flat out raining we almost never sit inside all day. Even if we had 36-40' 5th wheel we wouldn't just sit in it. We go months sometimes without hardly sitting in our recliners during the summer.
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We went to a State Park two weeks ago in our 26 ft camper first night was fine no one there next day it seemed every camper was bigger than the next most were 40ft 5th wheels air on patios out the back of the camper vowed to never camp there again.
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05-19-2018, 10:33 AM
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05-19-2018, 10:33 AM
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That's exactly why we are looking for a shorter 5th as a second RV. We enjoy our 32ft for extended road trips, but there are places we'd like to camp where that length becomes an issue. I want to keep to 5ths if possible because you get more living space for total overall length than a TT.
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2007 Excel Classic 30RSO & Coach House 272XL E450
2007 RAM 3500, Diesel, 6Spd Auto, SWD, 4x4, CC & LB
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05-19-2018, 12:31 PM
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Take a look at Northwoods Fox Mountain 235. It may be a bit big though. We tow the AF 27-5 and can usually find a spot although the height is a problem on occasion.
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05-19-2018, 12:49 PM
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KZ Sportsman had a 23' model I looked at and liked. I forget the exact model number. It had larger fresh water tank, black tank, and gray tank if I remember right.
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05-19-2018, 02:46 PM
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Sorry, the KZ Sportsman is 25' 5". The model number is KZ Sportsman 231RK.
It does have bigger than average holding tanks for a small 5th wheel. Here is some info.
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