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07-15-2013, 12:35 PM
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small generator for ac?
Im picking up small 5th wheel. 27' 1985 Jayco. Will a 1400w generator run just the ac? Im wanting to do some work to the inside but its toooooo hot.
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07-15-2013, 12:53 PM
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1400 what's will give you around 12 amps mine 15000 btu pulls right at 15 amps so just a little small but I do use a 10 gauge extension cord to use my washer plug on a 20 amp breaker
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07-15-2013, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by whem2fish
1400 what's will give you around 12 amps mine 15000 btu pulls right at 15 amps so just a little small but I do use a 10 gauge extension cord to use my washer plug on a 20 amp breaker
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So do you think itll be ok if thats all I run?
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07-15-2013, 01:33 PM
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1400 watts is not sufficient to run an air conditioner.
Since you need a brief surge of 5500 watts (locked rotor watts) to get the A/C compressor started, you will need a generator capable of providing instantaneous power if 5500 watts for about 3 seconds.
Nothwithstanding, that an air conditioner that has been resting for 5 minutes or so, and "decompressed" before applying power, may start with substantially less power.
You really have to check the specs for each.
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07-15-2013, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan.Birch
1400 watts is not sufficient to run an air conditioner.
Since you need a brief surge of 5500 watts to get the A/C compressor started, you will need a generator capable of providing instantaneous power if 5500 watts for about 3 seconds.
Nothwithstanding, that an air conditioner that has been resting for 5 minutes or so, and "decompressed" before applying power, may start with substantially less power.
You really have to check the specs for each.
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Crud. Well then how could I go about getting 30amp to my garage? I have 110 outlets out there now. I can do electrical but need to know what I need to do it.
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07-15-2013, 01:42 PM
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I can run a 13,500 btu A/C unit with my Yamaha 2400IS generator. 2400watts is enough to handle the surge of start-up if I start fan 1, then fan 2, wait 5 seconds then A/C low, wait 5 seconds thrn A/C high.
If I do not wait the generator trips it's breaker and needs to be reset.
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07-15-2013, 01:49 PM
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I can run a 13,500 btu A/C unit with my Yamaha 2400IS generator. 2400watts is enough to handle the surge of start-up if I start fan 1, then fan 2, wait 5 seconds then A/C low, wait 5 seconds thrn A/C high.
If I do not wait the generator trips it's breaker and needs to be reset.
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Hmmm. This generator is only $60 and im trading tires so its essentially free. And he said its super quiet
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07-15-2013, 02:00 PM
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Hmmm. This generator is only $60 and im trading tires so its essentially free. And he said its super quiet
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If it's free, then you have nothing to lose. Except for your A/C compressor that is.
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07-15-2013, 02:23 PM
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Crud. Well then how could I go about getting 30amp to my garage? I have 110 outlets out there now. I can do electrical but need to know what I need to do it.
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So are the 110 outlets on a 15 or 20 amp circuit? If 20 then you should have enough power to run the AC.
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07-15-2013, 02:46 PM
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Crud. Well then how could I go about getting 30amp to my garage? I have 110 outlets out there now. I can do electrical but need to know what I need to do it.
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http://www.myrv.us/Imgs/PDF/30-amp%20Service.pdf
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07-15-2013, 03:24 PM
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Crud. Well then how could I go about getting 30amp to my garage? I have 110 outlets out there now. I can do electrical but need to know what I need to do it.
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You don't need 30 amps in your garage; 15 amps is quite sufficient to run an A/C.
For the 50 amp startup, if you are using household screw-in fuses, then you must use a "slow-blow" fuse to accomodate the few seconds of high startup current. A standard fuse will blow before you ever get the A/C up and running.
If your house has circuit breakers, then they are "slow-blow" by default, so they will run an A/C without any modifications.
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07-15-2013, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan.Birch
You don't need 30 amps in your garage; 15 amps is quite sufficient to run an A/C.
For the 50 amp startup, if you are using household screw-in fuses, then you must use a "slow-blow" fuse to accomodate the few seconds of high startup current. A standard fuse will blow before you ever get the A/C up and running.
If your house has circuit breakers, then they are "slow-blow" by default, so they will run an A/C without any modifications.
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My powerpanel in the house as circuit breakers. If they trip need to flip them off then back on. Its either a 15 or 20 amp. So I just need my power grab converter to go from the 30amp plug to a standard plug and I can run my ac and everything???? Thats AWESOME!
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07-15-2013, 05:16 PM
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Thanks for the link! My garage is wired with standard romex. Could I switch the breaker with a 30amp and then add the receptical?
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07-15-2013, 05:41 PM
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You can NOT just change the circuit breaker with out changing the wire from the breaker to the outlet. I ran 8 ga wire to the garage, you can use 10 ga for 30A. If your circuit breaker is 20A then it is likely that 12 ga was used. A hard star capacitor may allow your air conditioner to work with a lower ampacity/watts but your 1500W generator is not likely to be sufficient. The hard start capacitor mod RV Air Conditioner Hard Start Capacitor | ModMyRV
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