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07-19-2018, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesS
We use a F250 4x4 4DR to pull a 43' 5er with a B&W slider. I put bags on it to level it out and I can easily 1 hand it on the freeway. We just come up from FL to MD and there wasn't any stability issues at all. In west TX on a trip in April we had a significant crosswind (40-50mph) and I just slowed to 60 and had plenty of control. I think I would have slowed if I had a DRW truck also.
I've found that if you listen to all the advise you get from others - you'll end up with a Freightliner to pull your RV.
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I have no idea what your 5ver weighs, or what the payload capacity is on your F250, but there is a strong possibility that you are over the payload capacity of the truck with a 5ver that big....especially if it's the diesel.
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07-19-2018, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by xrated
I have no idea what your 5ver weighs, or what the payload capacity is on your F250, but there is a strong possibility that you are over the payload capacity of the truck with a 5ver that big....especially if it's the diesel.
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The 2017 F-250 diesel 4x4 with 3.31 differential has a rated towing maximum of 17,600-lbs, according to the Ford online specs.
The trailer weight about 16K and I have air bags to keep things running level.
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07-19-2018, 06:11 AM
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Location: Oklahoma
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It's not all that difficult. Look at the yellow sticker on the driver's door pillar. It will tell you how many pounds your truck, or any truck, can hold, not tow. It will be a different figure for each truck, depending on options. If you know your pin weight, hitch weight, passenger weight, extra cargo weight, dog weight, etc. just add them up and compare to what's on the yellow sticker. If that passes, then start looking at towing capacity, etc. I kind of doubt you'll get past step one with a single rear wheel.
I really wanted to go back to an srw when I bought our Ford last year but could not find a diesel with the options we wanted with enough capacity.
The other option is just ignore it and do what you want, which obviously many do. I for one think the engineers and technicians who come up with these figures and ratings are probably a lot more knowledgeable than me.
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07-19-2018, 07:02 AM
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No worries about daily driver you get use to it. I use my C4500 Topkick for a daily driver. Been doing this almost 3 years. Dont look at fuel or mileage. Get to half a tank and just pump 40 or 50 bucks. Mileage is what it is. Just be glad you have a tank underneath you if someone does do something stupid and hit you
Forget bank drive thrus you wont fit in a drw. most everything else youll fit these days.
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07-19-2018, 08:05 AM
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Location: AR
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Originally Posted by JamesS
The 2017 F-250 diesel 4x4 with 3.31 differential has a rated towing maximum of 17,600-lbs, according to the Ford online specs.
The trailer weight about 16K and I have air bags to keep things running level.
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I don't want to be argumentative but if it your pulling a 5th wheel the highest F250 4X4 rating with a 3,31 rating is 16,500# and that is a regular cab. Then it drops as the cabs get bigger. Down to 14,700# for a Crew Cab.
If you are pulling a 16,000# then you are looking at about 3200# pin weight, this is 20% of 16,000# trailer. Per Ford payload the max payload is 3444# for a 4X4 Regular cab. Then the payload goes down as cabs and beds get bigger. Down to 1606# with a CC 4X4 with the diesel. What does the yellow tag on your driver side door tell your max capacity is?
I noted that each time you posted you made mention of having air bags which do not add anything to the capacities, all the do is raise a sagging rear end.
This is all from the 2017 Ford towing specs. I would have to say that you are way over the payload. If your pin weight is around 3000@ and your payload around 2000# that you are 1000# more in the truck. This is not even taking into account your hitch, people and anything else you put into the truck
2017 Ford Rowing Specs
ttps://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/Ford_Linc_17RV&TTgde_r6_Nov8.pdf
To give people wrong advice just because you do it doesn't make it right. I only saw one person on here put something about a class 7 or 8 truck, most are only recommending a DRW which most likely is the proper truck for the size 5er he is looking at,
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07-19-2018, 08:38 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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Originally Posted by Butch50
I don't want to be argumentative but if it your pulling a 5th wheel the highest F250 4X4 rating with a 3,31 rating is 16,500# and that is a regular cab. Then it drops as the cabs get bigger. Down to 14,700# for a Crew Cab.
If you are pulling a 16,000# then you are looking at about 3200# pin weight, this is 20% of 16,000# trailer. Per Ford payload the max payload is 3444# for a 4X4 Regular cab. Then the payload goes down as cabs and beds get bigger. Down to 1606# with a CC 4X4 with the diesel. What does the yellow tag on your driver side door tell your max capacity is?
I noted that each time you posted you made mention of having air bags which do not add anything to the capacities, all the do is raise a sagging rear end.
This is all from the 2017 Ford towing specs. I would have to say that you are way over the payload. If your pin weight is around 3000@ and your payload around 2000# that you are 1000# more in the truck. This is not even taking into account your hitch, people and anything else you put into the truck
2017 Ford Rowing Specs
ttps://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/Ford_Linc_17RV&TTgde_r6_Nov8.pdf
To give people wrong advice just because you do it doesn't make it right. I only saw one person on here put something about a class 7 or 8 truck, most are only recommending a DRW which most likely is the proper truck for the size 5er he is looking at,
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The only reason I recommended a class 7 or 8 was you can buy them very economically if you look around. It would be used exclusively for towing enabling the poster to purchase a smaller fuel efficient vehicle for a daily driver.
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07-19-2018, 09:20 AM
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Senior Member
Excel Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon Dewald
The only reason I recommended a class 7 or 8 was you can buy them very economically if you look around. It would be used exclusively for towing enabling the poster to purchase a smaller fuel efficient vehicle for a daily driver.
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I know they are. I had a 96 Volvo with a sleeper then dropped the rear axle to single it out. I wished I would have removed the intermediate axle instead of the rear. Then had a hauler bed installed on it. I don't know if you have heard of Jack Mayer from Escappes? We had discussed a lot on the HDT forum and in fact my bright yellow Volvo was the one that got him looking at the HDT route so he tells me.
I no longer have a need for that size of rig with my smaller 32' 12000# 5er.
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