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08-26-2020, 04:03 PM
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Dually or not
I have towed both single and dual. The dually was much more sable towing. If I have to tow I would definitely have a dually
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08-27-2020, 12:20 AM
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Location: NW Arkansas
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Why is It most people want the biggest trailer they can afford, but the smallest truck they can get away with to tow it with?
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08-27-2020, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RVPioneer
What is the load range for the tires on your 2020 Ram 3500 Diesel?
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2910 each. These are the stock Nexen tires 245/75R17. I will see how these perform. At replacement time I will look at Michelin (3140 rated). I didn't like Firestone tires on my 2500 loaded or unloaded.
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08-27-2020, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mike5511
Why is It most people want the biggest trailer they can afford, but the smallest truck they can get away with to tow it with?
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I think its that they don't look at the total cost of ownership when contemplating the situation, especially if its for a vacation getaway purpose.
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08-27-2020, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by HDGoose
2910 each. These are the stock Nexen tires 245/75R17. I will see how these perform. At replacement time I will look at Michelin (3140 rated). I didn't like Firestone tires on my 2500 loaded or unloaded.
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Your tires are Load Range E. The maximum cold inflation pressure for those tires is 80psi. Why would you inflate them to 90+ as you stated previously?
The 2910lb capacity is for a tire in a dual wheel position, rear tires on a dually. Inflating all 4 rear tires to 80psi will support a load of 11,640lbs on the rear axle.
The 3140lb capacity, some charts show 3195lbs, is for a tire in a single wheel position, front tires. Inflating the 2 front tires to 80psi will support a load of more than 6300lbs on the front axle.
Inflating to 50psi would support 12,700lbs.
Inflating to 60psi would support 14.500lbs.
Inflating to 80psi would support 18,000lbs.
What is the GVWR of your truck?
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08-28-2020, 01:05 AM
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#76
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Originally Posted by RVPioneer
Your tires are Load Range E. The maximum cold inflation pressure for those tires is 80psi. Why would you inflate them to 90+ as you stated previously?
The 2910lb capacity is for a tire in a dual wheel position, rear tires on a dually. Inflating all 4 rear tires to 80psi will support a load of 11,640lbs on the rear axle.
The 3140lb capacity, some charts show 3195lbs, is for a tire in a single wheel position, front tires. Inflating the 2 front tires to 80psi will support a load of more than 6300lbs on the front axle.
Inflating to 50psi would support 12,700lbs.
Inflating to 60psi would support 14.500lbs.
Inflating to 80psi would support 18,000lbs.
What is the GVWR of your truck?
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I never stated that I ran my tires at 90+. I said the air compressors at most gas stations cannot get to 90. Meaning that they cannot output enough air pressure to fill a tire to 80 psi.
I know how to read tire charts and ratings for proper air pressure at the current usage. Learned that as a teenager.
I know my trucks axle ratings, front and rear, and the rated gross vehicle weight (14,000).
So what's your point?
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08-28-2020, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HDGoose
I will be buying an air pump for tire pressures for my truck and trailer. Most air pumps at regular gas stations cannot get a tire up to 90+ psi.
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You said “get a tire up to 90+ psi.”
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08-28-2020, 08:30 AM
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[QUOTE=LifeSalt;5410625]Lol. You're right. 8' box is nice, but not a requirement. There are more short boxes towing than long boxes.
Considering buying a used 5th wheel to tow with an 05 Dodge 2500 4WD short bed with gooseneck hitch.
Haven't found trailer yet but assuming it will be 96" wide. Also haven't measured distance between hitch ball and rear of truck cab, but assume an offset gooseneck adapter will be required.
Any suggestions for length of offset required and mfg brand of adapter?
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08-28-2020, 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVPioneer
You said “get a tire up to 90+ psi.”
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Kinda hard to get a tire to 80 psi when the compressor output is not 90. I usually air tires above the pressure I want. And then use the air guage to lower it down.
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08-28-2020, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PLDieter
What the heck is a "dually guy?"
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Dually guys are easily identified by their big rear ends. [emoji3]
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08-28-2020, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HDGoose
Kinda hard to get a tire to 80 psi when the compressor output is not 90. I usually air tires above the pressure I want. And then use the air guage to lower it down.
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It’s getting to be quite a dance around those previous statements.
I wouldn’t spend any additional time inflating tires above the proper pressure for the vehicle, and then spend more time to deflate them to the proper pressure.
Of course we’re swerving off the topic of a suitable truck to tow an 11K lb 5er.
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08-28-2020, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVPioneer
It’s getting to be quite a dance around those previous statements.
I wouldn’t spend any additional time inflating tires above the proper pressure for the vehicle, and then spend more time to deflate them to the proper pressure.
Of course we’re swerving off the topic of a suitable truck to tow an 11K lb 5er.
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Yes sir.
I forgot my place. I am just the big dumb guy who knows nothing. I should hire a technical writer so that the full technical details are fully explained in every post.
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11-28-2020, 02:44 PM
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Location: Lancaster County, PA
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Originally Posted by sanda
You dont need a dually for that load or most others. Also check payloads between a dually and single tire and the dually is usually less payload due to the added weight of two wheels and tires.
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Where are you getting your false information?
Here is the specs from Ram for my 18 Ram CTD HO Crew Cab 4x4 long bed DRW vs the same truck but SRW, I used a 3:42 axle for both.
Truck . . . GVWR . . . . . . Payload
SRW . . . . 12,300 Lbs. . . 4,320 Lbs.
DRW . . . . 14,000 Lbs. . . 5,690 Lbs.
As you can see the DRW has 1,370 Lbs. more payload than the SRW.
A Google search will show the same basic information for other manufacturers.
Offering No advice is better than giving Wrong advice.
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11-28-2020, 02:59 PM
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#84
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mUSt bE spECial
Quote:
Originally Posted by sanda
You dont need a dually for that load or most others. Also check payloads between a dually and single tire and the dually is usually less payload due to the added weight of two wheels and tires.
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This statement is why you should take what you read here with a grain of salt.
Consult the factory specs.
Just so you`ll know a dually will out preform a single with any load this is common sense for most.
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