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jrms88 · 06-19-2018, 12:48 PM

i got the message down below from LCI this morning

Thank you for inquiring. The Anderson Ultimate is considered an adapter that can place excessive stress on the upper deck and pinbox. LCI still does not recommend using this hitch

so if you our one of these folks using the AUH and have a lippert frame and using the mor-ryde cushioned pin box, do you think that LCI is over thinking the stress factor, because of using those set ups?

so if do have this set up, are you ok with it do you have any plroblems or issues?

thanks

2016 ford f350 6.7 short bx

2019 Columbus 366rl

P5W · 06-19-2018, 02:14 PM

I've been using my AUH / Morryde for 3 1/2 years to tow my 14,000 lb 5th wheel over 40,000 miles with zero issues.

jrms88 · 06-19-2018, 04:43 PM

P5W,do you have the rail mount or aluminum version? what is your 5W frame? any any issues with your pin box.

thanks

P5W · 06-19-2018, 11:45 PM

I actually had the rail mount for almost 2 years and I've had the aluminum gooseneck version for the past 1 1/2 years towing about 25,000 miles. My frame is a lippert frame. I even moved my morryde from my last 5th wheel to this trailer.

plasma800 · 06-20-2018, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jrms88

i got the message down below from LCI this morning

Thank you for inquiring. The Anderson Ultimate is considered an adapter that can place excessive stress on the upper deck and pinbox. LCI still does not recommend using this hitch

so if you our one of these folks using the AUH and have a lippert frame and using the mor-ryde cushioned pin box, do you think that LCI is over thinking the stress factor, because of using those set ups?

so if do have this set up, are you ok with it do you have any plroblems or issues?

thanks

2016 ford f350 6.7 short bx

2019 Columbus 366rl

I called Morryde Direct. They had some choice words directly from their engineer. Overall they said the AUH should never be used with any pin that has any movement. Rubber pin box, trail air, so forth.

Recently another member's frame snapped requiring front cap removal and a boatload of work.

I elected to heed their advice and just got a normal BW companion hitch. It's been fine.

Fulltimer · 06-20-2018, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jrms88

i got the message down below from LCI this morning

Thank you for inquiring. The Anderson Ultimate is considered an adapter that can place excessive stress on the upper deck and pinbox. LCI still does not recommend using this hitch

so if you our one of these folks using the AUH and have a lippert frame and using the mor-ryde cushioned pin box, do you think that LCI is over thinking the stress factor, because of using those set ups?

so if do have this set up, are you ok with it do you have any plroblems or issues?

thanks

2016 ford f350 6.7 short bx

2019 Columbus 366rl

Why do you consult experts, engineers if you are going to do what you think is better? Both LCI and Morryde have advised against. Soon you will be whining when you have frame troubles and they wont fix it free under warranty.

dayle1 · 06-20-2018, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jrms88

P5W,do you have the rail mount or aluminum version? what is your 5W frame? any any issues with your pin box.

thanks

Knowing someone else's rig has been trouble free does nothing to reduce your risk. You can't see their frame design, steel gauge or quality of welds, or even your own details. Lippert makes many different frames to different builder specs. Some owners have problems even with a standard hitch, some slap on a full GN extension and don't have problems. The AUH adds less stress than any other adaptor, but it still adds stress.

Grzly03 · 06-20-2018, 04:24 PM

Dayle1, I have the AUH and really like it in F-350. I agree with everything you say, but not sure about AUH and less stress. Can you explain?

dayle1 · 06-20-2018, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Grzly03

Dayle1, I have the AUH and really like it in F-350. I agree with everything you say, but not sure about AUH and less stress. Can you explain?

Sure, the amount of extra stress added to the fiver frame depends on the distance and angle from the king pin to the new pivot point. With the traditional GN extension, that is about 14", the distance from the king pin to the floor mounted ball. The AUH, since it raises the pivot point off the truck floor, adds minimal stress. But when the adapter plate is turned with the ball forward of the king pin, those extra few inches adds stress.

Cumminsfan · 06-20-2018, 08:35 PM

If I never have to by a trailer with a lippert frame I'll consider myself lucky or smart.

Scoobert · 06-25-2018, 04:34 PM

I think it has less to do with stress the AUH provides and more to do with LCI being the builder of the Reese Goosebox.
What better way to get rid of competition than to say all hitches other than the Reese goosebox (the hitch we make) will void your warranty.

I tried the goosebox and liked it. If I didnt have a recessed gooseball I would have went that route over the AUH. But I am really happy with my AUH, i like it better than any true fifth wheel hitch I have ever used (most B&W's).

I DO NOT have the mor ryde though, just a standard lippert pin box.

jacknife · 06-25-2018, 05:23 PM

When you build thousands of frames as Lippert does the law of averages dictate that some will have problems. The frames are built to the manufacturers specs. Just as with cars trucks and every mass produced product. Recently a new owner of a DRV had frame problems. A lot of it you can trace to the crap suspension many manufactures but on their trailers or the abuse by people that jacknife their trailer on hard surfaces lots of frame stress there.I sure wouldn't blame Lippert every time a frame cracks. Maybe some of these crap roads in parts of the country play a part also.

mrgrayaz · 06-25-2018, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jacknife

or the abuse by people that jacknife their trailer on hard surfaces lots of frame stress there.

Abuse huh? Fascinating. I do it all the time. In fact I'd consider it "situation normal" verses anything extraordinary. I also do weird things like take my 4x4 trucks offroad, which some consider "abuse"....

Fortunately, I dont have a lippert frame

Honestly though, anymore. I am perfectly willing to stay within the manufacturers guidelines, and warranties and just not worry about it. Could straying outside and trying the AUH work out and you get 100,000 miles of effortless towing with no issues? Its possible.

Or you could need to spend $10k in frame work......I know what I would do.....

From my understanding its a good hitch, but its not $10k in risk good. I have more important fish to fry.

Cumminsfan · 06-25-2018, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jacknife

When you build thousands of frames as Lippert does the law of averages dictate that some will have problems. The frames are built to the manufacturers specs. Just as with cars trucks and every mass produced product. Recently a new owner of a DRV had frame problems. A lot of it you can trace to the crap suspension many manufactures but on their trailers or the abuse by people that jacknife their trailer on hard surfaces lots of frame stress there.I sure wouldn't blame Lippert every time a frame cracks. Maybe some of these crap roads in parts of the country play a part also.

Lippert needs to build frames strong enough for any road. Geesh, if I do get a trailer with a Lippert frame I'm going to make sure I stay on Americas finest roads.