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Old 11-30-2019, 01:58 PM   #29
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85 degrees here tailgating in FL winter and the air has been on since mid-morning. No gen it would be 100 inside. Winter boondocking is brutal.

Goooooooooo Gaaaaaaaaators!!!!!!!!
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One many dont see the cost being worth it. 2nd if they are propane thats a good thing. As most wont run there generator oŮce a month to keep the carb clean. Propane isnt expensive and gets a whole lot more efficient if you put the bottle blankets on. The bottles get so much more efficient
Can you explain this please, how do they make them more efficient?
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the warmer keeps the bottle around 90 degrees. which keeps it at optimal botlle pressure. Lower pressures a "cold bottle" prevents gas from vaporizing. Vaporizing gas is what your appliances run on. Inadequate pressure leads to less gas through the regulator. and your furnace water heater etc arent as efficient due to low gas supply. So they have to run longer. The difference for me running my 12.5 onan is about 5 hours no blanket to almost 7 with the blankets on per bottle. Winter heating is alot better to. more days per bottle. about a day and a half more. Yeah i was skeptacle to but the proof is the span before fill ups.

Warmguard WG20 is what i use. i have two per 40lb bottle in the 5ver and two more on the bottles for the generator.
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If you're worried about pin weight, add a cargo rack and a "gen box" on the back end. Room for the gen, battery and fuel.

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Chained though rack grating



Home made cover held by bungee cords.(handy wife)

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It was amazing to me in our search for a Solitude that 90% had the gen prep kit, but most dealers refused to even help get a generator installed and "order on with the generator was the common line. A dealer in Indiana was willing to do a PO to the Onan mothership in Elkhart and add it to the invoice, and another in Alabama was wiling to install one. Then when our dealer realized that we were serious, they looked within and realized that they had a tech that was a lead at a Onan Cummins shop and are going to do a ground up install as soon as we can schedule it. Granted the biggest use will be a back up system and for Wally Docking, but to know that it will kick in if we lose shore power and the puppies will be safe will justify the cost.
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It was amazing to me in our search for a Solitude that 90% had the gen prep kit, but most dealers refused to even help get a generator installed and "order on with the generator was the common line. A dealer in Indiana was willing to do a PO to the Onan mothership in Elkhart and add it to the invoice, and another in Alabama was wiling to install one. Then when our dealer realized that we were serious, they looked within and realized that they had a tech that was a lead at a Onan Cummins shop and are going to do a ground up install as soon as we can schedule it. Granted the biggest use will be a back up system and for Wally Docking, but to know that it will kick in if we lose shore power and the puppies will be safe will justify the cost.
Installation outside the factory is generally a loss leader for dealers. While not particularly difficult, it is very time consuming and requires a lot of attention to detail and requires some fabrication even when pre-prepped. Then after that, the dealers don't want the headache if something isn't working right because let's get to brass tacks - the number of RV dealers that stand behind the quality of their service isn't staggering...

After helping a member from my old FR community install an Onan in his 5er, I really decided it's not worthwhile (to me) for onboard in a 5er fueled with LP. The 5500 LP was something like $4250 delivered, and then the transfer switch, remote panel, air vent, material to brace the front compartment floor pan and fabricate the firebox, exhaust tubing (did all stainless and routed street side), wire, cable and lugs, propane line and connections, third 30# LP bottle - this all quickly tallied up to nearly another $1000! The installation took an entire weekend for the two of us to get through, and my labor was in trade for a favor to be owed... If you put that labor into shop dollars, it will be staggering. Certainly, if the unit came from the factory with generator prep, that helps immensely and should reduce the install down to a solid day. When we were shopping our 5er, we could have ordered from any of the final brands that had our attention for about a $4500 add-on. Cannot beat the economy from the factory if you have the time and patience for an order.

To me, the money is better spent on a portable where I will use it for more than just the 5er as we're not full-timers and our camping style is mixed. I do understand the desire to not have to deal with lugging around a generator or pair to parallel. However, I could install a folding davit in the pickup bed, or fabricate a slide-out for the front compartment to garage it/them and wheel them off. Saving thousands of dollars and giving me the generators for other uses, which I do have with the size of my property...

Dealers bring in inventory to move as quickly as possible and high-end units tend to sit the lot already for an extended time...
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John and Mercedes, the RV Odd Couple, found that out the hard way. Lost a Champion 3k off their cargo rack when John forgot to use his cable lock and only ratchet-strapped it down. Happened while stopped in traffic, too!

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When I bought mine, the generator was factory installed for less than I could buy the generator for, and I didn't have to install it. We use it now and then on the road, but the week we spent in the 5th wheel in freezing temperatures during a power outage was worth it.
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Most larger 5ers have a generator option and 99% of the toy haulers have generators. I had a 28' Cougar that didn't have a generator and not built for one. My 35' Montana is wired for a generator but we decided we didn't need one - Mama's not into boondocking.


Fifth wheel generators run on propane, not gas.
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85 degrees here tailgating in FL winter and the air has been on since mid-morning. No gen it would be 100 inside. Winter boondocking is brutal.

Goooooooooo Gaaaaaaaaators!!!!!!!!
Like Twomed I tailgate with my now fifth wheel. I had a toy hauler with gas gen, the class a with diesel gen, now 5th wheel with propane gen and I dry camp A lot. The propane gen works great, but a couple must does. Upgrade the bottles to 40lbs and get an AGS! You will want it for the pets anyway (as I do) and it will fire up on ac demand or low voltage and consume WAY less propane. I also have solar on the 5th so during the day my essentials are powered off the inventor. The combination keeps me going for days...

Go Gators!!!!!
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I have 2 Champion 2000 watt generators with a parallel kit. Unless I know Iíll need 2 I often not always take one. They are only 48# each. They are locked with a cable in front of my hitch. The entire system and wired to the 5er cost less than $1100. They can be used for other uses too.
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Added weight and added cost.
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Like Twomed I tailgate with my now fifth wheel. I had a toy hauler with gas gen, the class a with diesel gen, now 5th wheel with propane gen and I dry camp A lot. The propane gen works great, but a couple must does. Upgrade the bottles to 40lbs and get an AGS! You will want it for the pets anyway (as I do) and it will fire up on ac demand or low voltage and consume WAY less propane. I also have solar on the 5th so during the day my essentials are powered off the inventor. The combination keeps me going for days...



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Added weight and added cost.
I have a 2019 F350 dually and donít worry about weight. GVWR is 14,000 scaled at 12,240. Fully loaded for 3-4 months snowbird trip and 70 gallons of fuel. If you have to think about 100# you need more truck!
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