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08-11-2022, 09:18 AM
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08-11-2022, 09:41 AM
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All-in-all you want a higher torque engine. The penta star normally aspirated engine is 269 ft lbs. If you stayed with the Ram 1500 either the 5.7 or eco-diesel. The Eco-dieael puts out over 400 ft lbs.
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08-11-2022, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TXiceman
If the brochure says 1/2 ton towable, you need to plan to get a 3/4 ton truck in all reality.
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Exactly.
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08-11-2022, 09:44 AM
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Just remember that power is not the only thing that matters when you're towing. Sure, your Hemi or EcoDiesel can get that load moving but can it stop it safely? Is the trailer going to push your truck around in heavy winds?
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10-25-2022, 01:30 AM
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A little late to the party, but my experience is towing with my EcoDiesel. It does a fairly good job towing my 7K gross bumper pull. Between the weight distribution hitch and trailer brakes, everything feels very solid behind the 1/2 ton. On my first trip towing back westward from South Dakota, it pulled very well on normal roadways, getting 12-14mpgs. The low end diesel grunt made for easy work in town. Where the motor did not excel was on the highways when I hit a few of those 7% grades (with 100 degree days). I was down to 40mph and struggling to keep the motor cool. It has done great locally and short pulls up hills, but there were a few times on those really long grades I wished I had a Cummins....
I plan on getting a tune for it here shortly so hopefully a few more HP/TQ will help.
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10-25-2022, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Mac
A little late to the party, but my experience is towing with my EcoDiesel. It does a fairly good job towing my 7K gross bumper pull. Between the weight distribution hitch and trailer brakes, everything feels very solid behind the 1/2 ton. On my first trip towing back westward from South Dakota, it pulled very well on normal roadways, getting 12-14mpgs. The low end diesel grunt made for easy work in town. Where the motor did not excel was on the highways when I hit a few of those 7% grades (with 100 degree days). I was down to 40mph and struggling to keep the motor cool. It has done great locally and short pulls up hills, but there were a few times on those really long grades I wished I had a Cummins....
I plan on getting a tune for it here shortly so hopefully a few more HP/TQ will help.
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I'm curious do you calculate your mileage mathematically or do you use the info panel in the truck?
What gear did you pull that load on 7%?
I'm surprised about the cooling, sometimes a downshift and slower speeds help.
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10-26-2022, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tachdriver
I'm curious do you calculate your mileage mathematically or do you use the info panel in the truck?
What gear did you pull that load on 7%?
I'm surprised about the cooling, sometimes a downshift and slower speeds help.
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Hi Tach,
Sorry for the late response, I work nights. I calculated mileage by setting my trip meter and doing the math at each refill.
As far as climbing the grades, I pretty much just kept the truck in whatever gear it needed so I could keep the RPM's in the 2300-2800 range without having to mash the gas pedal. If it started dropping down below 2300, then rather than mash the throttle down, I shifted down a gear. If the truck started getting up close to 3k I would manually upshift. The motor had good enough power, and I am pretty sure I could have kept up with traffic better with more throttle, but if I tried, my oil would get hot enough to de-rate the motor.
The cooling system on the 2nd gen EcoD's (14-19) is not the best. Mopar/VM Motori re-engineered the 3rd gen motors to have better cooling which resulted in upping the towing capacity nearly 4k pounds just because of that.
I did a bunch of research because I was pretty shocked how hot things got on the climb and actually thought something was wrong, but seems it is what it is. These trucks just have an issue with heat when towing. On flat ground it gets great mileage and does just fine with power and heat, I just will have to take it easy on long grades.
**Edit to Add** The truck is a 4x4 with a lift, 35" tires and 3:55 gears so I'm sure none of that helps either.
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10-26-2022, 08:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny_Mac
**Edit to Add** The truck is a 4x4 with a lift, 35" tires and 3:55 gears so I'm sure none of that helps either.
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That does affect it.
You may be able to take your radiator to a shop and have it recored to enable better cooling.
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10-26-2022, 11:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tachdriver
That does affect it.
You may be able to take your radiator to a shop and have it recored to enable better cooling.
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Unlikely with an aluminum core and plastic tanks. Possibly they'll find an oversized and thicker cored rad that fits. That still doesn't fix all the other shortcomings when hauling at the limit though.
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10-26-2022, 08:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trzack
Anyone here tow a fifth wheel with a Ram Rebel w/ turbo 6 cyl.?
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Just here trying to yank chains ?
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10-26-2022, 09:00 PM
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Why is everyone commenting about the hemi and ecodiesel when the OP said he has the na 3.6 v6 ?
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10-27-2022, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CamperLifer
Why is everyone commenting about the hemi and ecodiesel when the OP said he has the na 3.6 v6 ?
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Some people are probably confused by the original post which said turbo 6cyl.....the only turbo 6 is the Ecodiesel.....the OP then corrected the error and said they have a base V6
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