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Old 08-08-2022, 11:45 AM   #85
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Rosy - there is no doubt that the Japanese copy designs....agree?

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If you want to pick up some HP , without altering your smog system and without costing $40,000, Look into having a lower gear set installed. 3.73 or 4.11 will help flatten the hills! DR
Does not increase horsepower of the engine. Gears do not have HP. The new 10 speed transmissions negate the need for lower geared axles. Gears 1-2-3 are very low even with 3.31 axles.
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The new Tundra engine is a copy of the Ford engine so I count the Tundra as a Ford.
Not true. Not a copy. Toyota has had the 3.5 for a few years and even use it in the Tacoma. They simply beefed up the internals and added the turbo system. It is not a copy of the Ford block or heads or any part of it.
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Does not increase horsepower of the engine. Gears do not have HP. The new 10 speed transmissions negate the need for lower geared axles. Gears 1-2-3 are very low even with 3.31 axles.
Lower rear gears will help flatten hills more than most any smog legal mod you can do. They do help put more of that HP to the wheels. My comment was to a poster that did not want to upgrade to a newer truck and spend another $40,000+ his trade in. DR
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Lower rear gears will help flatten hills more than most any smog legal mod you can do. They do help put more of that HP to the wheels. My comment was to a poster that did not want to upgrade to a newer truck and spend another $40,000+ his trade in. DR
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Lower rear gears will help flatten hills more than most any smog legal mod you can do. They do help put more of that HP to the wheels. My comment was to a poster that did not want to upgrade to a newer truck and spend another $40,000+ his trade in. DR
Lower rearend gearing is not needed with the new 10 speeds.
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Lower rearend gearing is not needed with the new 10 speeds.
Correct. However would be a lot cheaper to put a lower geared rear end in an existing truck than to buy a truck that had 10 gears.
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For those pulling travel trailers with a half ton truck, please share your tow vehicle, trailer weight and how the set up performs.

Despite truck prices being so high, the trade in/sales price for my Suburban is high was well. My current camper is 5,000 pounds empty. The Suburban does OK pulling around here, but we may like to go out west one day or not have to count every pound in the camper. Plus the truck bed would be a good option for bike hauling.

It seems I can get a 6.6 Gas burning GM 2500 for the same price as a nicer equipped half ton.

For pulling any RV, the obvious answer seems to be the 2500. However this will be my daily driver for at least 30 miles a day. I know that isn't much but I know the driveability, gas mileage and maintenance costs of a 1500 will be much greater. We would be looking at 4-5 camping trips a year.

Curious your real world experiences I know we have a lot that look at the charts and suggest a Peterbilt for a Pop UP, I am looking for a solid, safe set up that could venture out to the Smokey Mountains, maybe even the Rockies one day.

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I had a 25 foot rear kitchen Coachmen Catalina (6500 GVWR) that I pulled with a 2006 F150 for a while. Killed the engine in pretty short order. I moved to a 2012 F250 with 6.2L gas engine and six speed transmission. I was really pleased with that set up and the truck was very comfortable as a daily driver and got even better fuel mileage than the old F150.
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Correct. However would be a lot cheaper to put a lower geared rear end in an existing truck than to buy a truck that had 10 gears.
All the gear changing advocates make it sound so easy. but what if the OP has 4wd? Doesn't mention whether he has 4wd or not, but up here in Canada I can't remember the last time I saw a 2wd truck on a dealers lot.

So changing gears means both axles plus as mentioned by one of the mechanics on here reprogramming the speed calibration which could be easy or impossible. Sounds like a lot of work and $$$$ and not as simple as suggested, and the OP mentions getting good trade in $$$ for his suburban. Personally, if it was me, I'd take the (suburban) money and go buy the truck I wanted that would do the job I wanted it to do.
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All the gear changing advocates make it sound so easy. but what if the OP has 4wd? Doesn't mention whether he has 4wd or not, but up here in Canada I can't remember the last time I saw a 2wd truck on a dealers lot.

So changing gears means both axles plus as mentioned by one of the mechanics on here reprogramming the speed calibration which could be easy or impossible. Sounds like a lot of work and $$$$ and not as simple as suggested, and the OP mentions getting good trade in $$$ for his suburban. Personally, if it was me, I'd take the (suburban) money and go buy the truck I wanted that would do the job I wanted it to do.
I have a 2010 GMC 1500 crew cab short box 4x4 fairly loaded with just 100K on it in excellent condition. to buy a new truck or even 1-2 years old with low milage like it, i'm going to have to pay in the area of 40 to 50K AND MY TRUCK. so if it does cost me 5K to have the gears changed thats peanuts. but i'm still up in the air about what i'm going to do. i'm kinda creeping towards a 2020 or newer with a 5.3 and the 10 speed. i have the money i just don't like to spend it time is running out though, so if i don't spend it now some one else is going to.
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I have a 2010 GMC 1500 crew cab short box 4x4 fairly loaded with just 100K on it in excellent condition. to buy a new truck or even 1-2 years old with low milage like it, i'm going to have to pay in the area of 40 to 50K AND MY TRUCK. so if it does cost me 5K to have the gears changed thats peanuts. but i'm still up in the air about what i'm going to do. i'm kinda creeping towards a 2020 or newer with a 5.3 and the 10 speed. i have the money i just don't like to spend it time is running out though, so if i don't spend it now some one else is going to.
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https://www.amazon.com/Die-Broke-Rad.../dp/0887309429

It's our plan anyway, why hoard today when we can spend it on the kids and enjoy it with them. Also eliminates any fights when we're gone, nothing to fight over.
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I had a 25 foot rear kitchen Coachmen Catalina (6500 GVWR) that I pulled with a 2006 F150 for a while. Killed the engine in pretty short order. I moved to a 2012 F250 with 6.2L gas engine and six speed transmission. I was really pleased with that set up and the truck was very comfortable as a daily driver and got even better fuel mileage than the old F150.
I'm not surprised. Too much camper for that year model F150.
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22-24 mpg not towing cruising at 70-75 mph on highway
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I'm a weekend camper and summer vacationer. The truck is my everyday driving vehicle.

Towed TT from Baton Rouge, LA to northern Minnesota, following the Mississippi River, and back in June. 4200 miles. Minimal sway and a little porpoising sometimes. Had no problems climbing the hills and mountains up north. Went on some 6-7% grades. Truck does get some bounce on rough roads. Engine oil and transmission temperatures stayed the same as when I'm not towing.

I usually go camping somewhere within ~100 miles from home at least one or two weekends every month. No problem towing the TT.

I've never owned at ĺ ton truck so I can't compare how it tows vs. my Ĺ ton. But, overall, I'm pleased with how my truck performs with my travel trailer. It's definitely not worth investing in a new, bigger truck for what I need. I originally had a Fastway E2 hitch, but upgraded to the WeighSafe True Tow. The WeighSafe is much better.
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