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Old 01-18-2017, 06:11 AM   #1
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#1500 lb difference?!

Hey All - I am struggling to find the best Excursion/Truck for my current trailer (Passport 3350BH). I was dooped (like many) into thinking my Suburban could pull the dry #6550lb trailer before gear/water, etc --

The Suburban pulled it fine the 5x we went out local (34 miles tops) but it was enough to strain on any hill! We want to go south (through Jellico, etc.) this coming year --

So thus, a search for new TV began (many other threads) --

Anyways, would I notice a drastic change if I went to a smaller trailer (passport 2810BH)?!?! It's 6' shorter and dry weight is #1500lb lighter?! Is that a big enough difference or should I just keep searching for a truck that can seat 6?! (Ford F350 v10 or 6.2)

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Old 01-18-2017, 06:13 AM   #2
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Sorry - It's an 09' Suburban with 5.3L, 3.42 gears - Book says #7900 trailer limit, which I'm sure I was close/at/over ---
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:45 AM   #3
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#1500 lb difference?!

Define strain. Any naturally aspirated gas motor is going to rev high pulling weight up a hill because they make their power above 4,000 rpm.


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Old 01-18-2017, 02:42 PM   #4
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Or you could opt for the newer 6.2 engine if you want to stay with gas--had some friends with a Yukon XL that pulled more than you talking just fine, but he had to cover up the tach....
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What the engine will pull and what you can safely tow are two very different things!
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:44 PM   #6
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I would think loaded in a the 2810bh id be around #6500 --- the dry weight of my current TT!

I've learned to let it rev, but I'm with Mr.D ... I know I can, but should I tow #6500 or hold off and just get a truck !!?!
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I'm gonna guess that with a family of 6 you are already a bit cramped in your bigger camper whether you admit it or not. Seems as though you have had several threads on tow vehicles and you are apparently still on the search.

I have a customer who tows a fairly long Jayco TT with his Ram MEga Cab 2500 Diesel. He has 4 kids and his wife. His truck has the front bench seat so the littlest one rides in the middle front. THe Mega Cab is great for the passengers to be able to recline the rear seats as well as store kids "stuff" and snacks behind the rear seat. One big advantage of the Mega Cab over the standard Crew Cab is the middle rear seat has a full seat bottom cushion as opposed to the CC that is shortened by about 3" and is not as comfortable.

Just my opinion, but I think going to a smaller TT with that many people would be a mistake.
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:02 AM   #8
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1500 not really.. and is the weight TRUE... most trailer stickers weight LIE.

mine is OFF (OVER) by 800 pounds. EMPTY..
both tags state 7,500 pounds.. but is 8,300.. scaled at 2 different Cat Scales.

I love my 2012 F 250 Gas 6.2.. and it has 150,000 miles on it. my trailer is over 9,000 loaded.

and YES, gas engines need to spin.. going up hills..
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Thanks everyone .... Wife and I going to look at the Fords this weekend with 6.2 ---- I like the middle, front seat having shoulder strap?!!!
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2009 suburbans have a tow rating of 5400lbs UNLESS it has the factory cooling package installed. (Apparently nobody ordered that option) 7900lbs with the cooling package.
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Thanks everyone .... Wife and I going to look at the Fords this weekend with 6.2 ---- I like the middle, front seat having shoulder strap?!!!


Those Ford 6.2 like to spin when towing hills. A NA gas will always need 4-5000 rpm to tow a decent hill. Just keep that in mind if those high RPM are what spooked you from your 'burb.

An EcoBoost F150 with heavy duty Payload and Max Tow would be a very nice tow. The Turbos give them more grunt down lower in the RPM band. Just food for thought. But with a family of 6 and a camper it has to have that HD payload/max tow combination or you're going to be over GVWR.

Beyond that a diesel.


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