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Old 01-16-2022, 09:20 AM   #1
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2008 Dodge 2500 Megacab GCWR

I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 Megacab with the 6.7 Cummins, 68RFE (built and not OEM) airbags, extra leaf and load range G tires.
From what I can find the GCWR of my pickup is 20,000lbs - weight of my pickup, on the high end it is just shy of 6,500lbs.
Subtract 6,500 from 20,000lbs that leaves me 13,500lbs.
I currently pull a Forest River Wildcat 30ft and GVWR tag is 13,500lbs. I pull this thing all over the Rockies, the Grand Mesa, the Black Canyon, the Uncompaghre etc without ANY issues.
I want to upgrade to a 35ft toy hauler with an EMPTY weight of about 12,000lbs.
There are a lot of you more experienced with oulling 5th wheels than I am, but with my setup would any of you be hesitant to pull a 17,000lb FULLY LOADED unit? I'd rather not buy a 1 ton, pickup prices are outrageous right now.
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Old 01-16-2022, 10:55 AM   #2
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GCVWR is 20,000#

BUT your other numbers are off
Curb weight is 6,000/Gas to 7400/Diesel

MAX tow weight is 12,800#
GVWR is 8800/GAS & 9000/Diesel
RAWR is 6010/ 4x2 or 4x4

Regardless of the Built tranny, airbags, extra leaf, 'g' tires the RAWR is being exceeded with that 13,500 5th wheel
*wet pin at 20% is 2700# (base weight of rear is 2800/2900)

17,000 GVWR 5th wheel..........NO!

Go to Cat Scales with truck and that Forest River Wildcat loaded up camp ready and get weighed
Truck/Trailer...then drop trailer in parling lot and get reweigh of truck
You will then see that you are overloaded on trucks RAWR (and GVWR/Payload)

I tow at RAWR (over GVWR/Payload ---not concerned with those) BUT Axle ratings YES
13,873# 5th wheel (Scaled weight)----3080# Wet pin
Puts me right at trucks RAWR (6200#) and under tire max load ratings

You are over the trucks RAWR!


Check out the weight numbers PER Dodge for your 2008 Mega Cab
http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2008/docs/dr/mlup2500.pdf
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Old 01-16-2022, 11:52 AM   #3
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Welcome to the forum. I am in agreement that your vehicle weight of 6,500# is probably too low especially if you have kids or critters in that big back seat. My truck is a previous generation and we allow an 8,000# number for the truck with the wife in the passenger seat (including a heavy fifth wheel hitch). Your power train will certainly handle the load. Too bad the chassis has been down rated.
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My older '03 2wd 2500 Dodge/Cummins HO NV5600 tranny quad cab short bed weighs 6840 lbs .
Your newer 2500 Mega cab will weigh closer to 7000 lbs (2wd) or 7200-7400 with 4wd. Of course other non OEM products you carry adds to those estimated numbers.

A 250/2500 '08 any brand truck has 6000-6200 rawr. As Biscuit specs shows the Mega Cab 2500 truck has a 6010 rawr. My older lighter weight 2500 Dodge/Cummins rear axle weighs 2840 lbs. The Mega Can is a heavier truck and rear axle can weigh 3000 lbs leaving 3000 for a max payload before exceed in a tire/wheel/rear suspension capacities.

Of course the 2500 with Cummins/tranny are the same in all '08 trucks but the 2500 simply lacks rear axle suspension to carry probably in excess of 3200-3500 lbs for a 17k trailer....hitch...and other junk we carry in the bed.
Those big toy haulers can have more dry pin weight than a non toy hauler trailer.
You won't pull a empty trailer around and may not pull the max gvwr trailer. But by the time the combo is road ready its all gonna' weigh closer to the trailers gvwr than a dry weight number.

A 17k gvwr trailer needs a 3500 drw truck with those big 9375 rawr for 6k+ loads in the bed.
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I have a 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500. It weights 8000 lbs ready to go camping. I tow a 41 Ft 13500 lb fifth wheel. My GVWR is 9900 lbs and my GCVWR is 21000 lbs. I was at 10300 lbs with the camper on and 20900 lbs . I was at 5900 lbs rear axle weight with a gawr of 6200 lbs. It towed ok until I got pushed though a intersection in a emergency stop and cross winds pushing me around. I bought a F350 dually. No issues now. I would not consider towing a 17000 lb tow hauler.
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17,000lb GVW trailer behind any single wheel truck can be hand full at times. I had a one-ton single wheel crew cab and upgraded to a dual wheel truck. All stock the dual wheel truck is MUCH more stable then the single wheel truck with 19.5" tire upgrade with air bags , sway bars front and rear. Do yourself a favor , sell or trade your truck in. The new trucks maybe big money but the use truck market for good clean trucks is just as hot! trade in values are up 15~20% in the 18 months.
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