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Old 02-03-2020, 12:02 AM   #1
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2018 Ram 2500 6.7 & 2020 Raptor 356

I am trying to do some research on towing with my 2018 ram 2500 6.7 diesel. We are in the market for a 2020 raptor 356 toy hauler. It has a GVWR of 17,000 dry weight of 13,884 and a hitch weight of 3175. The truck has a GVWR or 17,120 so I know fully loaded I will be right at limits and a GAWR of 6509. Has anyone had actual experience towing within these limits.

I know the obvious that the heavier the trailer the more you will notice. Acceleration will decrease, breaking distance will increase ext. I am really just wondering if I am going to be regretting not buying a smaller trailer because I feel unsafe hauling the entire family down the road.
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:07 AM   #2
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What is your cargo carrying capacity on your truck? I'm guessing well under 3k lbs.

Way too much trailer for a 3/4 ton in my opinion...
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Old 02-03-2020, 05:31 AM   #3
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With that much weight on little 2500 truck your ride with be squishy with more steering corrections.

I think of trucks this way.

250/2500 series are good for travel trailers
350/3500 series are good for travel trailer and mid sized 5th wheels.
350/3500 series dually trucks are from big toy haulers and large 5th wheels.

I would check the sticker inside the drivers door to verify your rear axle has the capacity to carry the tongue weight of that toy hauler 5th wheel.

On my F-250 6.2 gas truck I only have a 6,200lb rear axle rating (A F-350 has a 7,200lb. capacity rear axle) and the truck alone puts 2,920lbs. on the drive axle from the CAT Scale. That gives me 3,280 lbs I can carry. With your heavy diesel engine your available axle rating might be less. I would say get your truck weighed with full fuel and all the stuff you will normally carry...like tools, maybe a chain, etc.

You will find you are maxing out your truck and that is never good.
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Here we go again!
The 17,120# max tow rating is the most you can pull, not what you can carry. Your Ram 2500 only has a 10,000# GVWR likely about a 2,500# payload unless it is a Tradesman model. Even a Ram 3500 SRW at most has a 12,300# GVWR and close to 4,000# payload.
That 5er is into 3500 DRW territory.
It has a dry pin of 3,175# way more than the total payload of the 2500, and a huge chunk of a maximum 4,000# stripper 3500. That payload includes hitch and Passengers and stuff, all of that has to come out of that payload.
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I have a 2018 Raptor 355h with the exact same trailer GVW and empty weight ratings. I pulled it 1st with a 2017 gmc 3500 srw and now I have a 2020 gmc 3500 srw. both trucks pull it fine I added the air bags on the 2020 and it rides and pulls with no problems. I think a 2500 is going to have excessive bouncing without adding air bags and you need to make sure you don't overload the tires. I also added Disc brakes on the trailer not because the truck couldn't stop it the brakes on the 7000# axles were hardly any help at all. Drives and stops well now. However I think if you tow it with a 2500 your probably going to want to upgrade the truck after a couple of trips.
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With a SRW truck you have to also watch the tire rating and not exceed it. The SRW GM 3500 series trucks are probably the best SRW trucks with the most capacity. But to get this payload capacity you need a gas engine and 2wd.
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With a SRW truck you have to also watch the tire rating and not exceed it. The SRW GM 3500 series trucks are probably the best SRW trucks with the most capacity. But to get this payload capacity you need a gas engine and 2wd.
I would believe that Ford would have the greatest payload in a SRW 3500 gas or diesel would be Ford with the aluminum bodyís and 12,400# GVWR.
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You'll need a bigger truck, or a smaller trailer.
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not enough payload

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You'll need a bigger truck, or a smaller trailer.
X2 - not enough truck/too much trailer
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*sigh* why do people buy diesel 3/4 tons....
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*sigh* why do people buy diesel 3/4 tons....
Because they pull 10k boats and 15k 5th wheels really well.
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*sigh* why do people buy diesel 3/4 tons....

Well this is a hint!
About Dennis852 CityBrentwoodState or ProvinceCalifornia
California, has some very restrictive rules about licensing and registration fees for anything over 10,000# GVWR.
Besides the fact that he should have a DRW for a 17,000# GVWR 5er, he will likely push to tow this crazy package with his 2500.
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