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Jshopes81 · 07-16-2019, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

The looks will have to grow on you for sure, especially the headlight arrangement.

jshopes81 - for 20,000lbs I am thinking a 2017 F-350 or F-450 would be good. I know you do not like the newer LDT's and like the MDT/HDT,s more. Oh sure, a MDT/HDT would not get beat up or worn out from towing a little 20,000lb toy hauler like a LDT would.

Chevy really improved the cooling on the Duramax so that will help it last longer towing heavy loads. The Hot Shot guys will need to report back in 3 - 7 years to report how well the 2020 LDT's hold up.

It would be good on paper, but considering i can drive whatever i might as well put that to good use is how i see it. A class 8 with an automatic is like a pickup with a big lift. We'll see though, i havent really looked into it, but ive thought about it.

tuffr2 · 07-18-2019, 02:57 PM

YouTube TFL - Andre just drove the new Chevy 2500 High Country trim diesel with a GVWR of 11,350 lbs. from Oregon to Colorado. He also said the truck weighed 8,300 lbs. So approx 3,000lbs cargo capacity on a diesel 2500 truck.

He commented on how rock solid the truck felt. Also he said it was a lot bigger with a longer wheelbase and not easy to park or manuver in parking lots.

He measured the diesel fuel as well as DEF usage. He said it has a 7 gallon DEF tank and I think 36 gallon fuel tank. He drove the truck roughly 1,000 miles. The new truck with 600 miles got roughly 1,000 miles per gallon of DEF and 19.9 miles per gallon of diesel. The computer showed 20.4mpg.

mrgrayaz · 07-18-2019, 09:52 PM

I just saw a brand new Uhaul rental white regular cab driving down the road. Good God is the front end ugly. Just awful.

redhooker · 07-19-2019, 05:41 AM

Agree on the looks. I’m a Chevy guy and dang-this is one ugly baby. Chevy went from the best looking truck straight to the ugliest.

Don’t like the folding tailgate-hits any hitch if you have one in.

Don’t like plastic step in bed body-didn’t they learn from the plastic avalanche?

Plastic gas cap cover? Already seen one missing/broke off a new 1500.

Hate the grill. Bring back the Bowtie.

New non-Allison 10 speed tranny might be good, but I wouldn’t spend $65k to find out. Will be waiting for a few years. They are still working the kinks out of the smaller 10 speed.

And of course for the custom crowd-not tuneable.

Don’t bet on it taking any Ram or Ford sales for now, I know 2 other GM guys now looking at Ford-breaks my heart.

Jshopes81 · 07-19-2019, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by redhooker

Agree on the looks. I’m a Chevy guy and dang-this is one ugly baby. Chevy went from the best looking truck straight to the ugliest.

Don’t like the folding tailgate-hits any hitch if you have one in.

Don’t like plastic step in bed body-didn’t they learn from the plastic avalanche?

Plastic gas cap cover? Already seen one missing/broke off a new 1500.

Hate the grill. Bring back the Bowtie.

New non-Allison 10 speed tranny might be good, but I wouldn’t spend $65k to find out. Will be waiting for a few years. They are still working the kinks out of the smaller 10 speed.

And of course for the custom crowd-not tuneable.

Don’t bet on it taking any Ram or Ford sales for now, I know 2 other GM guys now looking at Ford-breaks my heart.

The screwed up part is a really like the 1/2 ton. I think theyre really sharp. The hd truck though, wow.

redhooker · 07-19-2019, 08:25 AM

Agree completely. The half ton looks good, I wonder if the designers left over from the Pontiac closing (think Aztec) got hired on the HD team

grindstone01 · 07-19-2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

Chevy really improved the cooling on the Duramax so that will help it last longer towing heavy loads. The Hot Shot guys will need to report back in 3 - 7 years to report how well the 2020 LDT's hold up.

Very true, my 06 Duramax temp would float from 180F to 210F depending on the road grade. My 18 Duramax holds steady at 210F hauling the same camper, no matter what grade I am on.
I talked to one Hot Shot guy that 100k on his Chevy 18 dually, and he had no complaints other than the painted white bumper being all stone chipped (should be chrome).

jjackrash · 07-19-2019, 08:37 AM

I hope you guys are right on the invectives. I am going to flip my 2019 DRW 3500 for a 3500 Denali as soon as the price is right. The only question is SRW or DRW.

tuffr2 · 07-19-2019, 10:01 AM

The front is bigger because of the bigger radiator and fan. They also had 9 years to improve the emissions system. I could live with that front end because I know it is a form of function and not looks. When is the last time you saw a functional hood scoop?

The SRW trucks will have increased capability. If the 2500 has a GVWR of 11,350lbs. the SRW 3500 should have a GVWR of 12,800 to 13,000lbs.

wingnut60 · 07-19-2019, 10:17 AM

Guess it will be interesting in about 6 months to see where the sales go. Usually, a new model will fly off the lots until the 'gotta-haves' all get one.
Was at a DRV regional meet recently--14 Fords/5 Rams/1GM/3 MDTs/1 Volvo. Of the 14 Fords, 10 were 450s, 4 were 350s. It will take a long time for GM to get around this edge...

Gavenger · 07-19-2019, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wingnut60

Guess it will be interesting in about 6 months to see where the sales go. Usually, a new model will fly off the lots until the 'gotta-haves' all get one.
Was at a DRV regional meet recently--14 Fords/5 Rams/1GM/3 MDTs/1 Volvo. Of the 14 Fords, 10 were 450s, 4 were 350s. It will take a long time for GM to get around this edge...

Those DRVs are heavy, and up till these new 2020 GM's, you needed the 450 Ford or Dodge. Chevy didn't have anything in this space. And for the 350's for Ford and Dodge, you could get the 4.10 rear gearing which has never been available on the GM's. Until now.

Now...*I'M* waiting for the new GM 4500/5500's with the spiffy new clamshell hoods and see what we can do with those.

mrgrayaz · 07-19-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

The front is bigger because of the bigger radiator and fan. They also had 9 years to improve the emissions system. I could live with that front end because I know it is a form of function and not looks. When is the last time you saw a functional hood scoop?

The SRW trucks will have increased capability. If the 2500 has a GVWR of 11,350lbs. the SRW 3500 should have a GVWR of 12,800 to 13,000lbs.

The last Gen Duramax had a functional hood scoop. They can accomplish greater cooling area without hitting the thing over the head with the ugly stick - everyone else has managed....

Anyway, I have no doubt it mechanically will be just fine, if not excellent but good god people...there is a reason RAM is eating GM's lunch on Sales....and its only going to get worse I think.

The half ton looks good in some configurations (RST?) but the worktruck and a few other trims make it look a little rough too.

Mtn. Lion · 07-19-2019, 04:57 PM

Sounds impressive. Still trying to get over the looks of the front end.

redhooker · 07-20-2019, 08:10 PM

So the synopsis:
Chevy 2500HD vs Ram 3500 drw. Same 16 k trailer. Same grades. Trucks are tied dead even in speed-which means Chevy lost. How? Add the unsprung weight of two more tires, longer frame and bed and the extra suspension she will not go as fast as the 2500. Somehow the Ram did it with six measly gears.

BTW to the Ram guys-I am jealous of that trailer brake controller.

https://youtu.be/KJfHvfismu4