Originally Posted by redhooker
Sorry- lack of clarity and you are correct. I don’t really consider moving up to 14k much of an improvement. The point is none of them can rate over 14k GVWR in a 1 ton truck. That’s the max for any of them. That’s nowhere near what you would need to handle the pin weight of a properly loaded 35,000 pound trailer.
I watched a TFL truck video of the new Ram towing a 35,100 pound gooseneck flatbed. It was a stripped reg cab dually Cummins. The only option was power windows. The seven K plus payload was stated as only in the gasser. They didn’t give pin weight or axle weight.
My guess is the GM trucks will rate similarly... at 20% pin weight they need 7,200 pounds of payload... but that means the truck can only weigh 6,800 pounds. It’ll be interesting to see how they finagle the numbers. I don’t know... maybe a reg cab Cummins dually only weighs in at seven k stripped.
Regardless it is nice to see GM build a chassis to suit the Duramax Allison and compete. That 975 pounds may not seem like much of an improvement, but with fivers close to 25% pin weight that gives you room for aux fuel.
If they have dropped several hundred pounds in this makeover as have Ram and Ford they could beat them both by several hundred pounds on payload as they already had the lightest truck.
They have made some solid changes in cooling as well with a better oil cooler and high power fan with a dedicated pulley, enough to pull that stupid air dam up off the ground. AND the bed floor and bed rail is LOWER! This is a dream truck for people that pull big fivers. See Gale Banks video on cooling.
I agree the marketing seems deceptive, but Ram DID demo the max towing with a “commercial “ grade truck. For non commercial users the 35k is less important... but it is bragging rights and indicative of strength. You’ll note the videos of them towing with a CC is with a 16,800 pound Grand Design Solitude. A 20,695 pound Jayco Seismic has close to 5,300 pound est max pin weight putting last years Ram and Ford at max on the CC luxury models, and 900 pounds over the max payload on my High Country. At least now they can compete.
Between the cooling, ground clearance, adaptive CC, and cameras I could be tempted.
If it has two tanks with a 75 plus gal capacity my daughter can get married at the drive through chapel here in Vegas. I’m getting one in Red with chocolate leather interior!