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jrollf · 03-31-2021, 03:15 PM

LA specifically passed laws banning RV Parking on any public streets and parking lots to prevent the lower income classes from living in RVs in LA. That was one of their "fixes" for the astronomical cost of living there. Of course "officially" they had nusance and safety concerns. What really happened is a few really wealthy neigborhoods were scared the "trash" would move into their neighborhoods and lobbied to ban RVs from all LA city streets and parking lots.

If you look closely, many exits off I-10, you'll see a post card size sign informing RV'rs it's illegal to park anywhere in the city.

blahargoue · 04-01-2021, 05:01 PM

This is the RAM base price MSRP chart for the entry level Tradesman trim level both equipped with the 6.4 Hemi. $1450 difference as others have pointed out.

Interesting to note regarding the Ford F250 vs F350 WHEN EQUIPED WITH THE STANDARD 6.2 gas engine: The 6.2 comes with a 6 speed auto as the only available transmission in the F250. The same 6.2 gas engine come standard with the 10 speed auto in the F350. That alone would make the price difference worth it for those only wanting the 6.2 gas engine. Of course both the 7.3 gas engine and PS diesel home with the 10 speed in both weight classes.

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ardvark16 · 04-01-2021, 09:47 PM

There are a lot of turtles in the world. So many.

Raider47 · 04-01-2021, 10:15 PM

I ordered a SRW 1 ton with x plan pricing and I'm getting a few K under MSRP but I'm also getting exactly what I want so im not paying extra for options I don't care about. Also, the used truck market is crazy over priced right now and for those who are waiting for it to cool down, there us a possibility with inflation that it never will. I also suspect MSRP in 2022 will be significantly higher for every make and model because the price of materials has gone up, (along with everything else).
As bad a buyers market we are in, it might get worse.

ardvark16 · 04-02-2021, 05:19 AM

Literally just got a call last night about a 2021 Tradesman 3500 SRW Cummins in my lovely affordable home state of NJ. The kid told me that the 61500 msrp is the price. Maybe a couple thousand off based on monthly incentives. He will let me know today. He added that they have a few 2500 models that they can offer a more significant discount on. I can’t wait for him to give me a price today. At 61500 msrp for a Tradesman I would normally think I’d get close to 8-10k off.

ardvark16 · 04-02-2021, 08:57 AM

Spoke to a few dealers today who all said the same thing. They aren’t moving on MSRP on 3500 due to low inventory. “Check next month. Maybe they will offer a promotion. There is 0% for 36 months. But you have to pay msrp unless you qualify for military, fleet, or another discount. If you want a 2500 or 1500 we can move on the price”
I’m a hard pass at the moment.

tuffr2 · 04-02-2021, 09:31 AM

Are you picky as to what brand you want? Ram, Ford, GM?

If not, do you have a payload number you need?

A new GM 2500 HD with the 6.6 gas engine will have an over 3,000lb payload. The 2500 HD diesel trucks are right at a 3,000lb payload.

A Ford F-250 with a gas engine will be over 3,000lbs I think.

I don't know about Ram but they are probably about the same. A 6.4 gas engined 2500 will be over 3,000lbs.

Bigfin · 04-02-2021, 10:02 AM

FWIW...My "casual" review of the SRW towing capabilities of a F250 vs F350 show those numbers to be about the same...Available spring and rear differential ratio options may vary that some, but?...The "big" change comes with DRW options on the F350...From that observation, I changed my future truck focus from F350 to F250 as I will not tow much more length/weight than I already do...Thoughts?...

memilanuk · 04-02-2021, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

A Ford F-250 with a gas engine will be over 3,000lbs I think.

Did they raise the GVWR on the new F250's?

I have a '12 F-250 CCSB 4x4 XL FX4 6.2L gasser - pretty spartan/minimal, and all fueled up with just me (minus the wife, dog, generator, etc. etc.) it's ~7400 lbs (scale weight), out of a 10k GVWR.

For what I 'need' it for - pulling a ~30' TT - it's pretty much perfect. Kinda wishing I'd got a 1 ton though, because I'm kinda limited as far as moving up to a 5'ver, or 'down' to a truck camper. Both are, in theory, possible with the right trailer or camper with the truck we have. But the available options are incredibly narrow, between the 3/4 ton ratings and (in the case of the truck camper) the short bed.

Given the way the pricing on this stuff continues to climb... we're probably just going to have to satisfied with what we have, and keep an eye out for a screaming deal and be ready to pull the trigger when it pops up.

mtofell · 04-02-2021, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

Are you picky as to what brand you want? Ram, Ford, GM?

If not, do you have a payload number you need?

A new GM 2500 HD with the 6.6 gas engine will have an over 3,000lb payload. The 2500 HD diesel trucks are right at a 3,000lb payload.

A Ford F-250 with a gas engine will be over 3,000lbs I think.

I don't know about Ram but they are probably about the same. A 6.4 gas engined 2500 will be over 3,000lbs.

My 2014 Ram 6.4 Hemi 4X4 rolled out of the factory at 6940# for a payload of 3060#.

memilanuk · 04-02-2021, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mtofell

My 2014 Ram 6.4 Hemi 4X4 rolled out of the factory at 6940# for a payload of 3060#.

Is that just sticker numbers, or fueled up with you in it ready to drive down the road?

ardvark16 · 04-02-2021, 01:01 PM

I wanted a 3500 to go on long trips. Originally I hunted for a Ram 3500 Cummins. That ended with me getting the 2500 gasser with 3060 payload. We moved up to a 5er at 10195 gvwr. I’m within my numbers but we want to drive NJ to Florida next year so I’m always on the lookout for the SRW Cummins 3500. Payload might be 600-800 more. But it’s more about the Cummins. I know you can’t change payload but my mechanic and the truck shop putting on my hitch claim that my 2500 will be plenty fine even if I close in on the payload. They said it’s really just springs that separate the 2 trucks. I don’t know if that’s true. I just can’t believe this is where we are at with trucks. Or houses for that matter.

ardvark16 · 04-02-2021, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuffr2

Are you picky as to what brand you want? Ram, Ford, GM?

If not, do you have a payload number you need?

A new GM 2500 HD with the 6.6 gas engine will have an over 3,000lb payload. The 2500 HD diesel trucks are right at a 3,000lb payload.

A Ford F-250 with a gas engine will be over 3,000lbs I think.

I don't know about Ram but they are probably about the same. A 6.4 gas engined 2500 will be over 3,000lbs.

I’m picky only because it’s a want and not a need at this point since my payload is within my limits. And yes. I prefer a Ram because I already have the weathertech mats. Hahaha

Raider47 · 04-02-2021, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigfin

FWIW...My "casual" review of the SRW towing capabilities of a F250 vs F350 show those numbers to be about the same...Available spring and rear differential ratio options may vary that some, but?...The "big" change comes with DRW options on the F350...From that observation, I changed my future truck focus from F350 to F250 as I will not tow much more length/weight than I already do...Thoughts?...

As someone else just pointed out, most of the time you are just looking at different springs in the suspension between 3/4 and 1 ton SRW trucks. I ordered a 1 ton for a 2-3K lb slide in camper. Towing a boat or something else on the bumper probably doesn't matter but with a 5th wheel or gooseneck you probably want a 1 ton if not dual rear wheels. That's my opinion anyway