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Old 04-21-2020, 02:29 AM   #15
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Thanks for the good suggestions. Getting a different hitch box sounds like the way to go. Iím not sure what that would cost but I sure can find out. I have heard that the MORryde do ride fairly nice but I have never towed this RV because I just bought a truck a week ago. I used a transport company to move it for me. They said it pulled and handled real good. I found a 2017 Ram 3500 Laramie dually with only 14,000 miles. Totally loaded including the Aisin tranny and air leveling. It looks brand new inside and out. Anyway I am going to think about this for a couple days but thanks again.
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Old 04-21-2020, 06:54 AM   #16
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Maybe the heavy duty skid plate is required because you are wanting to take a product manufacture A designed for a wheel hitch and adapt it to work with manufacture B hitch designed for an adapted gooseneck setup??? They provide you a solution that would allow the adaptation to function yet you dismiss it to messy and declare their product to be flimsy and cheap, yet that's what you bought?

Perhaps more research prior to, instead of after the fact, regarding the purchase of the Pin box, truck, and hitch would of tempered your expectations and not left you feeling "stuck with an antiquated solution" ?

Seems to be that you have multiple solutions at your disposal, be it hitch or pin box, but you are the one that deemed the Andersen Ultimate as non negotiable.
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Old 04-21-2020, 11:37 AM   #17
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You have lots of options here all depend on how much you're willing to spend.
Option 1:
Purchase a standard 5th wheel hitch that will fit in the factory puck system for your truck or connect to the gooseball. (B&W Companion that can attach to a goose ball would by choice personally)

Option 2:
Purchase a standard 5th wheel hitch that uses standard rails and purchase a rail adapter that fits the factory puck system for your truck.

Option 3:
Purchase an Andersen Ultiumate 3220
Option 3a: get the adapter plate from Morryde and install on the kingpin plate
Option 3b: Procure a replacement pin box to use with the Andersen

Option 4:
Replace pin box with a Reese Goose box and connect stratight to the gooseball. Sell the Morryde pin box to recoup some of the cost.

IIWM and I had the dough, I would go with Option 4. then Option 1. Option 2 is most likely the least expensive.

I have an Andersen and it works great for my needs. Would love the simplicity of the goosebox though.
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Old 04-21-2020, 03:56 PM   #18
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I am going to pick up a B&W tomorrow. It will be fine. I might contact MORryde to see if they think I should go ahead and put the heavy duty skid plate on anyway.

Palmeris: when I bought the RV I had no plans of getting a truck. The MORryde sounded ok at the time. I do still think the ďheavy dutyĒ skid plate should have been there in the first place. I did tons of ďresearchĒ on the RV. You lost me on the manufacture A & B thing.

Anyway, I am moving on, the B&W looks like a well made piece of equipment. The truck I got wonít even know itís back there. I think the heaviest piece is the base at 130 pounds so two people should be able to lift that. If I have to remove it I will just take it off in pieces. I still think it is amazing that Anderson can design A hitch that will get the job done for 35 pounds. Thanks everyone for the help. CJ
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Old 04-21-2020, 04:14 PM   #19
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I'm pretty sure the Heavy Duty Plate reccomendation from MorRyde using the Andersen (or Pullrite) has more to do with the reduced Contact Surface Area that the Andersen Ball adapter has vs a full plate to plate contact that occurs between the pinbox plate and a conventional fifth wheel hitch plate.

For pinboxes that rotate (rotaflex?) there is a lockout kit that prevents the rotation of the pin box plate. There may be other setups that need special attention as well.

I have never heard bad things about the MorRyde rubber pin box and almost bought one before I moved to an Andersen hitch.
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Old 04-21-2020, 05:49 PM   #20
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I have the B&W hitch in my 2018 Chevy truck and it is a great solid hitch. It does remove in 2 pieces and is not that heavy to man handle. No heavy duty skid plate is needed, that is a Anderson thing.
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Old 04-21-2020, 06:31 PM   #21
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Great choice of hitch - you wonít be disappointed.
I have a hoist attached to my garage ceiling with which I use to lift my B & W hitch out. Lifting it out by hand isnít that bad, but the hoist makes it easy. When out of the truck I keep it on a dolly which make it easy to roll into storage.
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Old 04-22-2020, 07:31 AM   #22
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Manufacture A= Moryde Manufacture B = Andersen. My statement on research said nothing about the RV... You bought the RV which included the Moryde pin box with no intention of buying a truck to tow it? How did you plan on moving it?

The heavy duty skid plate isnt required for the intended use of the Moryde pin box, a standard 5th wheel hitch,something you dismissed in your OP where you stated you had made up your mind on using the Andersen ultimate. When moryde gave you a solution to work with the andersen you declared moryde to be flimsy and disparage them as well as all 5th wheel hitches being antiquated.

Back to my point about research , which you now seem to be doing after the fact to decide how you are going to tow the RV, all be it after you have purchased 3 of the 4 parts of the equation -Rv, pin box, hitch and Tow vehicle are all part of the equation of getting on down the road.

Whatever you decide i hope its done with enough research that you dont feel your solution is flimsy and antiquated as you traverse the great wide open.Best of luck
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Old 04-22-2020, 09:47 AM   #23
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It is interesting that in their installation video on their website, Andersen demonstrates the install on a standard MorRyde pin box. Apparently, Andersen feels it would work fine.

For what it is worth, I would get a Trailer Saver BD3 hitch to fit your truck and use it with your current pin box. It will cost more than the Companion which is a fine product but will perform much better regarding towing comfort. You have a new trailer and a really nice truck; might as well protect them both with an air hitch. The air ride suspension on your truck won't do anything to diffuse the considerable shock forces between the truck and trailer.
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:10 AM   #24
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Palmeris: I see now, you donít think I researched how I would move my RV.
Silly boy, I did in fact research that important detail. I negotiated for the dealer to move my RV at no charge to a Campground that was 15 miles from their location. I chose that RV, dealer, & Campground based on all my research, so that when things go wrong, they would be close by and it would be easier to get them to take care of the issues. It was in Florida where we stayed for 7 months over this past winter. It ended up we only had two issues, both were plumbing leaks, and they came out and fixed them at no charge. I chose Jayco because they have been around a long time, and are firmly planted as a top middle of the road brand. And I knew people who have owned their products and spoke highly of Jayco. I chose Pinnacle because it was their top of the line. And I can tell you with certainty after living in it for 7 months, thru a hurricane, tornado, and a Pandemic, we chose the right RV for us. We have been very happy with the dealer and Jayco. Additionally, in my research I found 5 transport companies that could transport my RV to wherever I needed it in the U.S. our plans were not to travel, but winter over in Florida every year for 5 or 6 months and maybe an occasional 2 or 3 month stay in NC. Yes, I did not research hitches because at that time I did not plan to ever buy one, and Jayco touted their 5 Star system that included the MORryde hitch box. I admit, in one of my above post I was venting my frustration a little, and went to far in my criticism of MORryde. I do think they make a pretty good hitch box, but it is not perfect. Before I retired, I ran a shop for 30 years that built heavy machinery for the metals industry. We fabricated and machined components up to 300,000 pounds. We also machined smaller steel parts to .0005Ē tolerances. So I know a little about steel components, so I get a little wound up when I see things that could have been done better. And trust me today you donít have to look very far to see what a difference a couple more pounds of steel can make. Steel is cheap compared to what they sell these components for. In the case of this skid plate another $3 worth of steel would have made the mother of all skid plates. Yes the original skid plate will work under specific conditions. But they are putting it out there to be used with various hitches with very little margin to handle each specific case.
Finally, to wrap this up, why am I buying a hitch now? Well, our circumstances have changed drastically. We have enjoyed the RV a lot more than we thought we would. We are even thinking about maybe selling our house and going full time for a few years. Recently, while shopping for a new car I came face to face with a 2017 RAM 3500 Laramie Dually with 14,000 miles on it. And it was LIGHTLY used. And has the Aisin tranny, 4.10 ratio, and air leveling. And best of all I was able to buy it at a Pandemic price. Even my wife said go for it.
I bought the B & W Companion today and it is already mounted in my truck. I will say as somebody who appreciates Steel, it is well built. (And heavy)
As far as MORryde is concerned, I will give them some free advice. The Anderson Hitches are selling like Popcorn. MORryde needs to spend the $3 and go with the heavier skid plate or it will eventually affect their business. For me with my RV in storage 600 miles away it is easier just to buy the B & W. The cost of the heavier skid plate and labor to install is 65% of the cost of a new hitch box. Plus, I think the MORryde will give a good ride as long as the skid plate holds up. Plus their caution and warning notes about using the Anderson Adapter on their hitch box is enough to scare the daylights out of you. So I hope this helps you understand my research.
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best of luck ...lol
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:42 PM   #26
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The 'holes' in the bed of your truck are the attachment points for the factory 5th wheel/goose neck hitch prep. The center hole is where a goose neck ball attaches. Get the Andersen hitch that attaches to a goose neck ball. Mount your king pin adapter so that the ball on top of the Andersen hooks up aft of the king pin. If you set up is like mine - I also have a MORryde pin box - your pin box will stay inside the truck bed when you turn. The Andersen is a great hitch.
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Old 04-23-2020, 06:20 PM   #27
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Tried to explain that in my posts...but he already got one of those antiquated 5ver hitches now
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Tried to explain that in my posts...but he already got one of those antiquated 5ver hitches now

What you call antiquated, I call a proven system. Anderson will never be the #1 fifth wheel hitch design with it's faults.
https://thecampingadvisor.com/anders...itch-problems/
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