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Old 11-29-2022, 04:55 PM   #1
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Built in GVWR and Payload Alerts

GM now has a gvwr alert for when your pulling too much weight and Ford has some built in scales for payload. Not sure what trucks have it though, probably not all of them.
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Optional on the 2023 SuperDuty.....not sure what package.

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Old 11-29-2022, 06:32 PM   #4
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Big brother are it's finest. I can see it being somewhat helpful. Is it only on 250/2500 and 350/3500 series trucks or is it even in the 150/1500 series.

Does anyone know what the true purpose is? I watch a Hot Shot YouTuber (Danger Industries) if you ever get time it is worth a minute or two of your time. He likes to push the limits with heavy equipment.
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for Ford, it is not included in any package, it is a separately order-able option. I have it on my truck, it was needed to get the active damping option. I've found active damping to do a good job managing porpoising. Takes a couple of miles driving for the computer to learn it has to deal with the trailer, then things really smooth out. Very happy with the option.
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for Ford, it is not included in any package, it is a separately order-able option. I have it on my truck, it was needed to get the active damping option. I've found active damping to do a good job managing porpoising. Takes a couple of miles driving for the computer to learn it has to deal with the trailer, then things really smooth out. Very happy with the option.
For those that missed it; you have an F150 and that option has been available on that platform for awhile. The Superduty has just introduced it in 2023 so nobody has one of those yet.

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Big brother are it's finest. I can see it being somewhat helpful. Is it only on 250/2500 and 350/3500 series trucks or is it even in the 150/1500 series.

Does anyone know what the true purpose is? I watch a Hot Shot YouTuber (Danger Industries) if you ever get time it is worth a minute or two of your time. He likes to push the limits with heavy equipment.
I believe the true purpose is to provide people towing and hauling with information they'd otherwise have to go to weigh their truck to get. That said there have been opinions for the tinfoil hat wearing crowd that the information will be used against them if overloaded (warranty, insurance). I personally doubt its and issue but my understanding is that it relies on suspension position so if you modify your suspension in any way (airbags, timbrens, etc.) then it would be useless.

I'll stick with my tongue weight scale.

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Old 11-30-2022, 01:22 PM   #8
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Yeah ...big brother has nothing to do with it but could be more in line with Ford warranty if its hooked to the 'puter with a memory. The system maybe more of a stand alone type tho.

Big rigs have had them for years and most helpful to drivers who now can see his tractors axle loads and the trailers axle loads. If those number are close he then runs across CAT scale that tell him the facts.
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https://www.etrailer.com/Tongue-Weig...RT/C51701.html

Or you can get this.
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Old 11-30-2022, 02:10 PM   #10
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So I looked it up; the payload scale is standard on King Ranch, Platinum and Limited Superduties and is optional on the Lariat.

....doesn't make much sense to me as it is a towing, not luxury option which should be available on all trim levels. Oh well, I'm not trading in my 4 month old truck anyway.

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If it is 'stored' data it can be retrieved

I'll stick with my OWN weight calculations
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GM GCWR alert system

On GM, there is no device actually measuring weight, no weight sensor, scale, lever, nothing AFAIK. It is all done through software, and I believe all they look at is GCWR (total weight truck and trailer), making sure it remains in parameters.

As linked in a reply or two above, this device https://www.etrailer.com/Tongue-Weig...RT/C51701.html the "Betterweigh" which was developed by another company and bought out, works almost exactly the same way. All GM did is use their in-house specs and data and the software connects the dots.

I haven't researched how Ford checks payload on some of their models. It's not something I'm inclined to check, I have 5555lbs of payload. In my case, my truck will run out of steam when I hit those numbers.
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I haven't researched how Ford checks payload on some of their models. It's not something I'm inclined to check, I have 5555lbs of payload. In my case, my truck will run out of steam when I hit those numbers.
Apparently it's a ride height measuring thing on the Fords. You have me beat by 100 lbs on payload, but considering mine's a diesel, that's not too bad. I love duallies!


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