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05-16-2018, 11:51 AM
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OP, you may want to consider your air bag management to help your situation:
If your hitch has anti-sway built in (such as an Equalizer), airing up your bags after set-up will unload your weight distribution and defeat your anti-sway benefits of the hitch.
The hardened rear suspension resulting from highly inflated air bags will serve as a fulcrum and cause your tongue weight to unload your front tires.
Pick a low number for your air bags (say 30#), inflate them then set up your hitch to specification so that the WDH is doing most of the work.
If you have only a WDH without anti-sway built in and are using only anti-sway bars then they are obviously inadequate.
Still prefer your decision to use a truck.
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05-16-2018, 05:39 PM
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[QUOTE=minytrker;4191055In my old dually it actually got the best fuel mileage towing 75mph, at 65-70mph it didnt have enough boost and was always lugging the motor.[/QUOTE]
Which clearly indicates you had a "flatland" or "prairie" rear end gearing, probably 3.55 or something like that. Something lower, a 3.73 or close would make for a more versatile vehicle.
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I didnt want to sell my last dually but someone made me an offer for it I couldnt turn down so I sold it.
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As a last resort I will buy another dually (cant find good deal) or a 4 door 2500.
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Which also indicates that the offer you could not turn down may not have been as premium of a price as you thought, and has left you without the right vehicle for the job. I am one to buy a vehicle to keep, since I am no good at selling stuff, and not real good at buying either, although I have had luck with a couple or three "old man/lady" deals.
Not trying to be snarky or critical, just my observations from afar.
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05-16-2018, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CecilD
OP, you may want to consider your air bag management to help your situation:
If your hitch has anti-sway built in (such as an Equalizer), airing up your bags after set-up will unload your weight distribution and defeat your anti-sway benefits of the hitch.
The hardened rear suspension resulting from highly inflated air bags will serve as a fulcrum and cause your tongue weight to unload your front tires.
Pick a low number for your air bags (say 30#), inflate them then set up your hitch to specification so that the WDH is doing most of the work.
If you have only a WDH without anti-sway built in and are using only anti-sway bars then they are obviously inadequate.
Still prefer your decision to use a truck.
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Not going to mess with yukon anymore.
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Originally Posted by CharlesinGA
Which clearly indicates you had a "flatland" or "prairie" rear end gearing, probably 3.55 or something like that. Something lower, a 3.73 or close would make for a more versatile vehicle.
Which also indicates that the offer you could not turn down may not have been as premium of a price as you thought, and has left you without the right vehicle for the job. I am one to buy a vehicle to keep, since I am no good at selling stuff, and not real good at buying either, although I have had luck with a couple or three "old man/lady" deals.
Not trying to be snarky or critical, just my observations from afar.
Charles
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Had a 2003 duramax dually all of them come with 3.73, no other option which clearly indicates your not the internet expert you make yourself out to be.
Since your doing that good at observations from afar I'll help you out some. I had my truck 12 years, sold it for almost what I paid for it. It needed $2400 in tires and and had 200k miles on it, I was very happy with the deal, IMO he paid me too much for it.
I didnt need it anymore because I sold my racing operation to be home with my kids all the time and wanted to get a 4x4 2500. A 2wd dually in the mud doesnt work well since we moved to the country and my dually was just sitting and it didnt fit in my garage.
Fast forward 6 months and my wife buys a travel trailer that the salesman told her that her yukon could tow. It doesnt tow the TT like I want it to so I will use my 2500 I have. Its not a big deal to buy another truck, Im not like most people though, I dont lose thousands of dollars on vehicles so I will wait for the right deal before buying one. We have 4 vehicles so its not like I need something to drive.
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05-17-2018, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CecilD
OP, you may want to consider your air bag management to help your situation:
If your hitch has anti-sway built in (such as an Equalizer), airing up your bags after set-up will unload your weight distribution and defeat your anti-sway benefits of the hitch.
The hardened rear suspension resulting from highly inflated air bags will serve as a fulcrum and cause your tongue weight to unload your front tires.
Pick a low number for your air bags (say 30#), inflate them then set up your hitch to specification so that the WDH is doing most of the work.
If you have only a WDH without anti-sway built in and are using only anti-sway bars then they are obviously inadequate.
Still prefer your decision to use a truck.
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Now folks, above this right here is good information.
Pics can be deceiving, but the trailer above does look quite nose high, possibly not enough ball weight, and yes aggravated by the air bags, an absolute sway generator. OP is grabbing another tow rig out of the yard, so all is good.
I will offer that when I increase my air spring pressure in my setup, there's a point of no return setting. Once I get close to that, even my small rig starts to sway a touch, drop the bag pressure, then rock solid, smooth and straight.
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05-17-2018, 08:19 PM
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Thanks everyone. I believe I had the airbags set wrong, I know now the hitch was set wrong and the yukon at max capacity so didnt have anything going in my favor. Thats why we set up a few camping weekends right down the road to get everything figured out before going on any long road trips. After just one trip and help from this forum the yukon is getting retired from towing duty. Lots of great info on here!
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05-18-2018, 07:50 AM
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Thanks everyone. I believe I had the airbags set wrong, I know now the hitch was set wrong and the yukon at max capacity so didnt have anything going in my favor. Thats why we set up a few camping weekends right down the road to get everything figured out before going on any long road trips. After just one trip and help from this forum the yukon is getting retired from towing duty. Lots of great info on here!
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Ok, safe travels. Get out there and enjoy it!
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05-18-2018, 08:40 PM
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Never paid attention to people pulling TT but I have been running back and forth into town alot this week and seen alot on the highway. Easily over 50% of the ones I saw being towed by 1/2 tons trucks or suv's were swaying all over the road. Passed a 2500 to day pulling a bumper pull who was using every bit of his lane with his TT.
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05-19-2018, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by minytrker
Never paid attention to people pulling TT but I have been running back and forth into town alot this week and seen alot on the highway. Easily over 50% of the ones I saw being towed by 1/2 tons trucks or suv's were swaying all over the road. Passed a 2500 to day pulling a bumper pull who was using every bit of his lane with his TT.
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Too much trailer and/or too little truck and/or not enough weight distribution and/or too little air pressure and/or incorrect loading. Heh, for a bunch of amateurs we sure have a lot of work to do to get it right.
Ken
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