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Old 03-29-2021, 06:16 AM   #1
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Friday, I got my truck & trailer weighed. Both were in travel trim. Did 3 weighs. 1st with just the truck, 2nd with trailer hooked, but with out WDH hooked. Bars were in the truck bed. 3rd was with the WDH bars installed.

Truck is a 2014 F150 XLT, Supercab, 4x4, 3.5EB engine, Max Tow and HDPP, 8' box, 163" WB. GVWR=8200#, GCWR=17,100#, GAWR-F=4050#. GAWR-R=4800#, CCC=2286#, Hitch=11,500#, Tongue WT=1150#, 3.73 Limited Slip rear end. Tires are LT245/75R17 LRE. Fuel tank=36 gallons and it was full.

Trailer is a Coachmen Freedom Express 20SE (Special Edition). GVWR=6000#, Empty WT=4140#, CCC=1860#. Axles are 2800# each. Tires are ST205/75R14 LRD. FW tank is 50 gallons and was 2/3 full and is just behind the axles. GW & BW are 33 gallons each, located just forward of the axles and both were empty.

1st Weight. Steer=3720#, Drive=3480#, Total=7200#.

2nd Weight w/o WDH. Steer=3380#, Drive=4540#, Trailer=4620#, Total=12540.

3rd Weigh with WDH. Steer=3500#, Drive=4380#, Trailer=4680#, Total=12560#.

I'm thinking the Equal-I-Zer hitch needs a slight adjustment.
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Friday, I got my truck & trailer weighed. Both were in travel trim. Did 3 weighs. 1st with just the truck, 2nd with trailer hooked, but with out WDH hooked. Bars were in the truck bed. 3rd was with the WDH bars installed.

Truck is a 2014 F150 XLT, Supercab, 4x4, 3.5EB engine, Max Tow and HDPP, 8' box, 163" WB. GVWR=8200#, GCWR=17,100#, GAWR-F=4050#. GAWR-R=4800#, CCC=2286#, Hitch=11,500#, Tongue WT=1150#, 3.73 Limited Slip rear end. Tires are LT245/75R17 LRE. Fuel tank=36 gallons and it was full.

Trailer is a Coachmen Freedom Express 20SE (Special Edition). GVWR=6000#, Empty WT=4140#, CCC=1860#. Axles are 2800# each. Tires are ST205/75R14 LRD. FW tank is 50 gallons and was 2/3 full and is just behind the axles. GW & BW are 33 gallons each, located just forward of the axles and both were empty.

1st Weight. Steer=3720#, Drive=3480#, Total=7200#.

2nd Weight w/o WDH. Steer=3380#, Drive=4540#, Trailer=4620#, Total=12540.

3rd Weigh with WDH. Steer=3500#, Drive=4380#, Trailer=4680#, Total=12560#.

I'm thinking the Equal-I-Zer hitch needs a slight adjustment.
I wouldn’t adjust it too much. You are right around that 13.5% tongue weight sweet spot before WDH. After WDH, you are at 12.6%. If you transfer more, it would be too low.
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you need to adjust it , your front axle has lost weight. I have always tried to keep the weight on the front equal to a unloaded truck with the bars in play. by putting a few hundred lbs up front your going to get a little off the rear tires. It should make the truck feel more stable with cross winds and large trucks passing you.
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Keep the trucks front axle weight close loaded or empty especially a 1/2 ton truck that the front axle is light in weight to start with.
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Ford, in my 2014 Owner's manual, only recommends 1/2 the weight loss be returned to the front axle. I understand at one time ford recommended the weigh be 100% returned.

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you need to adjust it , your front axle has lost weight. I have always tried to keep the weight on the front equal to a unloaded truck with the bars in play. by putting a few hundred lbs up front your going to get a little off the rear tires. It should make the truck feel more stable with cross winds and large trucks passing you.
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Ford, in my 2014 Owner's manual, only recommends 1/2 the weight loss be returned to the front axle. I understand at one time ford recommended the weigh be 100% returned.

My 2019 GMC Sierra 1500 owner manual says the same thing. Return the front axle to half the height when comparing hooked and unhooked measurements. I have no idea why they recommend having your steer axle lighter than the unloaded weight. I try to get mine back to unloaded weight personally.
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the OM may say that because of the stress on the frame??? For me close to the same front weight with the right bars is good and most likely feels most stable. Again Its just my opinion ,
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I would adjust it until the front axle weighs within 100 pounds of the truck only pass but not more than the truck only pass. If you can get to 3650 it will be so much more stable. The hitch needs to have more weight on it's bars because that is what it uses for sway control. More weight on those bars is more friction controlling sway.

When properly adjusted you will have to lift the truck with the tongue jack to get the bars on and you may still need to use the cheater bar the hitch came with as well. If not then it needs more weight on the bars in my opinion.
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