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Old 12-21-2017, 05:02 PM   #1
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Double-checking my tow math...

Hey there! The other day, I asked about using a one-ton to haul my new fiver, and got amazing help. Unfortunately, the one-ton I was thinking about buying turned out to be a lemon, so I'm back again, hat in hand, wondering if you'll help me evaluate whether this 2008 Silverado 2500 HD Diesel (6.6l v8) will haul my 2011 Keystone Cougar 293SAB. I've used a couple of calculators, and they all look good so far as I can tell, but I'd be very grateful for any expert opinions out there.

Here are the specs for the Silverado (all units are in lbs):

- GVWR: 9,200
- GCWR: 23,500
- FRONT GAWR: 4,800 (max)
- REAR GAWR: 6,084
- CURB WEIGHT: 5,983

And here are the specs for the Cougar:

- GVWR: 11,930
- GAWR (each axle): 5,200
- WEIGHT OF CARGO SHOULD NOT EXCEED: 2,730
- UVW: 9,140
- FULL LOAD OF WATER WEIGHS: 448

I'd really appreciate anyone taking the time to double-check whether this will haul. It looks like it will to me, but I'm a newbie and don't want to start off on the wrong foot.

Thank you so much!!
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:22 PM   #3
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excellent match. You will like the Dmax/A performance pulling that smallish trailer.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:33 PM   #4
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Is there anyway you could swing a 2011 or newer truck? In 2011 Chevy really strengthened the frame of there 2500 and 3500 trucks.

If not, agree, you will like the way the Duramax will pull.
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There is a strong chance that you will exceed the TV GVWR, as your TV likely weighs over the 5,983# listed curb weight, but it will tow well.
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Is there anyway you could swing a 2011 or newer truck? In 2011 Chevy really strengthened the frame of there 2500 and 3500 trucks.
I think those may be out of our price range, but we can certainly take another look! Thanks for the recommendation, I really appreciate it!
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excellent match. You will like the Dmax/A performance pulling that smallish trailer.
Great! That's awesome news, thank you.
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There is a strong chance that you will exceed the TV GVWR, as your TV likely weighs over the 5,983# listed curb weight, but it will tow well.
Okay! We'll keep a close eye on that. Thank you very much!
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My question would be, where did you procure the "curb weight" numbers? That sounds really low! I would take the truck across a CAT scale and get an actual number for how much the truck weighs.....that is where you need to be for a good starting point of whether or not the truck is capable.
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The fiver has a dry pin weight of 1530 lbs which is 16.7% of dry weight. If you loaded it to full GVWR and kept the same percentage, the loaded pin weight would be right about 2000 lbs. In reality, it could be more since fivers have most of their storage forward of the trailer axle. It might be as high as 3000 lbs (but unlikely) and you might not load it to full GVWR either.

Anyway, you need to make your best effort at estimating the loaded pin weight. Also find out the actual truck weight loaded except for the fiver. Then you will know if you will be under the truck's 9200 lb GVWR. Yes this will be hard to do for a truck you don't own, maybe someone with a similar truck can help. I had an '03 2500HD that weighed about 750 lbs more than stock due a custom utility bed and 45 gal Transfer Flow fuel tank. Pulled a fiver with similar dry weights w/o issues. Then went to a slightly heavier fiver that put me over the 9200 lb GVWR but still under the GAWRs. You should be OK, but still warrants a closer look.
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