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Old 11-27-2020, 05:30 PM   #1
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Emissions tampering crackdown

It would appear the feds have had enough. looks like they may start getting serious about individual deletes.

I would recommend people read the statistics on emissions from deleted diesels vs stock.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/c...UX_DlYRp-qgsWI
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Old 11-27-2020, 05:45 PM   #2
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It’s popping up in the local paper here as well. Funny. People are actually thankful that they are noisy as hell so they know when they are coming. It’s gives them a chance to take a deep breath and hold it till the air clears when they go by. Noisy stinky things. Everybody is talking about. People want to outlaw them on downtown streets.

Electric trucks can’t come fast enough.
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Fully stock modern gas and diesel trucks are not that bad. Poorly running and deleted ones are terrible. I see and smell some driving by every single day.

as we both well know electric trucks won't satisfy all our needs.
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Old 11-27-2020, 05:53 PM   #4
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Fully stock modern gas and diesel trucks are not that bad. Poorly running and deleted ones are terrible. I see and smell some driving by every single day.

as we both well know electric trucks won't satisfy all our needs.
Yepir. It’s going to be a while before there is a replacement for something like our old powerstroke dually. Great truck.

But, a half ton. Meh. In a couple years there will be some serious high performance electric contenders.that will work great for many.
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If I am shopping for a used diesel truck, how could I verify that it isn't tuned to defeat the emission devices?
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If I am shopping for a used diesel truck, how could I verify that it isn't tuned to defeat the emission devices?
1st thing would be to plainly ask the seller, they will know 99% of the time. 2nd thing is have it inspected, either by a dealer selling the brand or a knowledgeable repair facility. Having this checked can save you anywhere from 2000$ to 10 000$+ depending on the delete level and truck.

Also, be aware that deleted software will void remaining powertrain warranty in many cases. It is getting easy for manufacturers and repair shops to tell of software is not factory level.
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Would a code Scanner (I use Blue Driver) detect something like that?
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Would a code Scanner (I use Blue Driver) detect something like that?
possibly, but I would NOT count on it.
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I saw some idiot blowing coal just today. He thinks it is cool...NOT.
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I sent a message to Blue Driver. See what they say.
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Fully stock modern gas and diesel trucks are not that bad. Poorly running and deleted ones are terrible. I see and smell some driving by every single day.

as we both well know electric trucks won't satisfy all our needs.
Agreed, we had a poorly running gas engine pull in front of us the other day, the stink almost put tears in my eyes.

I also see the jerks that thinks that it is cool to roll coal!
On our 2016 the inside of the tailpipe is as clean if not cleaner as the outside.
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Here is the response I got from Blue Driver:

Unfortunately I can't really think of a way we'd be able to, you'd probably need something that would read specific software versions or something along those lines, but I'm not really sure if there are any commercial tools out there for this purpose.

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If I am shopping for a used diesel truck, how could I verify that it isn't tuned to defeat the emission devices?
How to tell if its been deleted...... Lay on back and look under truck, if ya don't see 3 large heavy things, with tubes and wires and sensors, that WILL go bad at some point,,, its deleted. Also look under hood, if its not inputting its own bunt fuel/exaust into the intake,,, its deleted... If it gets way better fuel miledge, and has more power,,,, its deleted.
DONT, look under my hood or truck............................. I am getting in town mpg's, what I got on the highway,, before.
Stock exaust with resonator and it don't smoke at all.
I would advise the doooommm and glooomm ones to not go to the Midwest, as most are deleted and the farmers us roundup ,a lot.... So next time ya see one of those make money adds on roundup call us , don't go to the Midwest. Or any farming area,,, stay in bubble, as most crops are roundup ready... So next time you eat, think about it has probably been sprayed with roundup multiple times as it was growing.. Lots of people with money, will buy new before emissions stuff goes bad.. The rest don't talk about it and the cost of the repair. Read on all the diesel pushers having problems with there DEF pumps and such. Yalllll have a great day.
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