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Old 01-25-2019, 03:05 PM   #29
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i am partial
expedition hands down

seating for 7
even with the back cargo are full


for 2018 they boosted hp for the platinum model and for 2019 late, you get the higher HP in the limited. but still you are looking at just shy of 75k for a loaded 4x4 model extended body model
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:16 PM   #30
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I'd love to get it and have 7 years and 150,000 miles without seeing a mechanic outside of routine maintenance.
My advice for any new vehicle is to change the motor oil using the best available oil that meets the specs per the Owner's Guide. And if towing more than around the block, then change the motor oil according to the "severe usage" specs in the Owner's Guide.

My 2019 twin turbo requires SAE 5w30 synthetic blend, spec WSS-M2C953-A1 for low expected temp of 30 below zero or higher, or 0w30 for low expected temp LESS THAN 30° F below zero. So Canuks and Alaskans, pay attention.

What is the oil change interval (OCI) on the 2019 F-150? Varies with load/speed/terrain. The Owner's guide in the "Scheduled Maintenance" section at the very back of the book says to rely on the "Maintenace Required" light on the dash. It could be as low as 4,000 miles. It might be longer than 10,000 miles. Depends.

Can you use pure synthetic instead of synthetic blend? If the 5w30 meets Ford spec WSS-M2C953-A1, then yes. If the package doesn't specifically state that it meets or exceeds Ford spec WSS-M2C953-A1, then you're on your own. For example, for all you Amsoil fanboys out there, I would not use Amsoil Signature Series 5w30 in my 2019 Ford.

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0W-30 (AZO): API SN PLUS (Resource Conserving), SM…; GM dexos1 Gen 2 (supersedes
LL-A-025, 6094M and 4718M); ACEA A5/B5, A1/B1; Chrysler MS-6395; ILSAC
GF-5, GF-4…

5W-30 (ASL): API SN PLUS (Resource Conserving), SM…; GM dexos1 Gen 2 (supersedes LL-A-025, 6094M and 4718M); ACEA A5/B5, A1/B1; Honda HTO-06; Ford WSS-M2C946-A, WSS-M2C929-A; Chrysler MS-6395; ILSAC GF-5, GF-4…
Note their 0w30 doesn't mention any Ford specs, and their 5w30 mentioned the wrong spec.
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FYI based on my 2013 Expedition EL (5.4L) - My TT is about 6,000 lbs loaded for camping. We bought this as a used vehicle in 2014 and have used it for 5 seasons, towing just over 15,000 miles in total.

The first year or so we had stability issues, the Ford anti-sway logic kicked in several times while traveling at freeway speeds. Scared the daylights out of us.

We use the Andersen WDH and over the years since buying it I've observed more than 2/3rds of very satisfied users who post on forums are towing with 3/4 ton trucks.

What resolved the stability issues for us was switching to LT tires and adding a hitch clamp to the setup. Gave up a bit of MPG and driving comfort, but I'm happy with that trade off.

I'm sure the Eco-Boost in the Expy you're looking at will pull better than my naturally aspirated engine at altitude. So I vote for the Expy.

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Old 01-27-2019, 12:21 AM   #32
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What's a hitch clamp? I have a blue ox sway pro and it's been the best hitch I've ever used.

I've decided on a 2017 expedition el. The dealer is going to replace the front cabin blower motor; it makes a high pitch noise at high speed. I'll pick it up next week as long as the blower is quiet.

Any thoughts on after market warranties? I'm planning on not getting it as the Expedition has strong reliability ratings and the warranty is stupid expensive.
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Any thoughts on after market warranties?
The only extended warranty one I would consider is the Ford Extended Service Plan. Sold by all Ford dealers, including discount parts dealers.
https://fordprotect.ford.com/extende...190128001455:s

But I don't buy any extended warranty or extended service plan because they are rarely cost effective. If you maintain your vehicle per the Owner's Guide, then you'll probably get over 150,000 miles before needing any major ovehauls of engine, tranny or differential/axle assembly. For routine maintenance items such as tires, batteries, brakes, shocks, etc., plan on paying for it as needed.

If you buy a vehicle that's rated by Consumer Reports as unreliable, such as any Jeep or Fiat, then consider if an extended warranty might be cost effective. But for an Expedition, save your money and put it in a kitty for future repairs.
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2019 F-150 owners manual (online version) says.........

Recommended motor oil (U.S.): Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Blend Motor Oil XO-5W30-QSP WSS-M2C946-B1

For the 3.5 Eco Boost motor.

And I agree, it still doesn't match what Amsoil says, but little closer. I've used Amsoil for years. Really like it...... however I am not putting 12 qts of it in my 2003 Dodge/Ram 2500 CTD, just plain too expensive for a 5000 mil a year vehicle, so I use Rotella T6.

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What's a hitch clamp? I have a blue ox sway pro and it's been the best hitch I've ever used.
I got this one from Amazon. Prior to installing it, the hole for the hitch pin was getting out of round, so I know there were significant forces at play.

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That hitch clamp would not fit on our 2018 Expedition..
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That hitch clamp would not fit on our 2018 Expedition..
Wow, is the bumper opening too tight to the receiver on the bottom?

I use mine with the flat plate on the bottom, and the u-bolt across the top of the stinger. But in my year the hitch sits below the bumper, and you have the hide a hitch version.
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Motorhome.com has a complete list of what can be a dingy and what can't. For my 2011 Buick Enclave it can be used as a dingy but the towbar and extras cost as much as a trailer. This is a good site for the go back several years and give you the right information.
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Forgive me for not private messaging you T Money but my phone is not cooperating. I’m not sure where you are located but I’m actually selling my 2016 Ford Expedition that is set up already for flat towing. I love my Expedition but we just added two more children that we our fostering. That takes my household head count to nine so we had to buy a Ford Transit Van since our Expedition only seated 8. If it’s something your interested in PM me and I can give you more details.
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We have a 29 ft pull behind Winnebago trailer, with a Max load of 8900 pounds. We pull it with a 2014 Tundra 5.7 liter King can, short bed. It does great on hills, mountains or anywhere we take it.
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We have a 29 ft pull behind Winnebago trailer, with a Max load of 8900 pounds. We pull it with a 2014 Tundra 5.7 liter King Canada, short bed. It does great on hills, mountains or anywhere we take it.
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There is no way in the world I would buy a Ford over a Toyota I don’t care what the towing capacity is the maintenance on the Ford will kill you
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