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Old 08-02-2022, 02:15 PM   #1
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F150 Lightning towing test

"Before you hitch an Airstream to your electric truck and set out to circumnavigate the country, you need to understand this: With the largest available battery pack, a fully charged 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning electric truck has less energy onboard than a regular F-150 with four gallons of gas in its tank."

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I read that article. I think it was a 37 mile radius. Probably not practical.
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Old 08-02-2022, 02:36 PM   #3
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Just as we all suspected. Battery powered RVs will never make it to market. It was a pipe dream.
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battery powered vehicles are a farce, most of the power used to charge them isnt clean renewable, distance is a huge issue, and fast charging is far from fast.

I cant see the internal combustion engine going away in our lifetime.
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This is easily rectified. We simply need coal burning power plants spaced 36 miles apart on every highway. Be patient and wait your turn.
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:12 PM   #6
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Easy folks. EV trucks are in their infancy. Larger and more efficient, more affordable batteries will arrive soon enough.

Internal combustion trucks and pickups won't disappear in the next few years, but I suspect a good percentage may go to full EV by 2035.

Battery driven RVs are coming to market to aid towing range.
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With the shortage of copper looming we may not need to worry about having to switch to EV's anyway.
https://www.dmv.org/articles/ev-copp...htens-shortage
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:45 PM   #8
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There are some fundamental laws of physics that tell us EVs will never make it to market, at least not on a major scale in the forseeable future. Mainly, a battery EV consumes more energy and produces more emissions than a diesel or hybrid ICEV. Add to this the high cost of production (double the cost of an ICEV), the limited range (1/3 that of an ICEV), and the lengthy charge times, and you have a loser that is ready to flop.
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By the time the supply will meet the demand electric vehicles will be cheaper than gas or diesel vehicles. There will be so many add ons to the prices of fossil fuel vehicles we will be forced to go electric.
A lot of fat cats are going to become fatter.
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Old 08-02-2022, 04:26 PM   #10
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My wife drives an all-electric SUV. Cost of the vehicle was comparable to what we would have spent on an ICE version, and charging is a fraction of the cost of gasoline per mile. The first year the cost of electricity was 4.3 cents per mile, while her previous car would have cost 18 cents per mile with $4 gas (remember that?)

She loves plugging the car in the garage once a week or so, instead of standing in the wind and rain to fill the tank of her previous car.

She drove it to see the grandkids in Montana recently. 484 miles each way. She had to recharge along the way, and chargers are as scarce in Montana as anywhere. Charging added about an hour and a half to the trip, and electricity costs more at a charging station.

I like the car because it is quiet and really fast.

I think electric vehicles are a real thing, and will gain in popularity as people get more familiar with them.

For towing my 5er, I need my diesel Ford. No EV currently will let me do that. If it weren’t for towing in the mountains, though, an electric pickup would be fine. I suspect contractors working locally would find electric adequate also.

One drawback to electric pickups, though, is that none I have yet seen are available with a full-size bed. That is a dealbreaker for me.
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I saw EV charges at the WaWa today behind the store. I agree EV's are in their infancy now. I did not read the 'Bulid Back Better' bill but it would not surprise me that there are not Billions of dollars allocated for battery research and development. Saying that, I hope we have the raw material to make some of this happen.

Right now EV's are great for short trips if you have the big chargers in your garage like my neighbor. I took this picture a few minutes ago. If you zoom in you can see the 'T' for Tesla. He has two cars one is a Tesla Plaid and one is a Toyota Prius. He is a retire electrician. Kinda makes sense - right?Click image for larger version

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Did you know that a Toyota Prius will literally run circles around a Tesla Plaid in an Indy 500 race? Plus it will use less energy and produce less emissions.
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BMW heater is standard equipment in EV models

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...atch-fire.html
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I rented a 2022 Toyota Prius and the range was about 500 miles with a 5 minute stop to fill the small 10 gallon fuel tank. Then another 500 miles. Next time I am getting gasoline I will time how long it takes to pump 5 gallons of gasoline. It might be under 2 minutes.

Under fast charge it takes hours to charge a EV.

Those old timers that figured you could power engines with gasoline were geniuses. They started back in 1890 so 132 years for the same fuel is really incredible. I will venture to say gasoline will be used for the next 50 years and maybe beyond.

Do the scientist still think oil comes from dead dinosaurs? If so, how many dinosaurs were there?

I agree Lithium Ion batteries are fire hazards.
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