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Old 12-30-2017, 07:57 AM   #29
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It would be less confusing if the manufacturers would stop emphasizing dry weights since it is the gross weight that determines if you can carry the pin or tongue weight. That would make it harder for the salesman to tell you you can tow anything on his lot though.
Estimate the maximum likely pin weight when you go to the dealer as follows;

Published "dry" pin weight + .20(cargo capacity of 5th wheel)

When you ultimately weigh it, you'll find your estimate on the high side.
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:40 PM   #30
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All I do is look at the tag on the side to get the GVW number. I use 20% of that to estimate pin weight. I always assume the trailer will weigh the max GVW by the time you are loaded up. I hit the CAT scale as soon as practical. The actual weight is usually a bit less but not a lot less.
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A simplified and easy to use version of my formula Don.
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Also pay attention to rim size, going up the scale everything gets bigger. If you go to a 20 inch rim in a 350 you get bigger brakes also. Then trade the dully for a super single, once you go past 19.5 rim you get more options and bigger brakes.

Then if you need more capacity, take it to a spring shop like I did, Resprung an E350 to an E450. That's my toad.
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You want an F-350. No difference as far as size or ride but has extra suspension in the rear for more payload. You also want the factory 5th wheel prep package that has the puck system already installed and has the electrical connections in the bed.

The 5th wheel you are wanting to haul is more than I would tow with an F-250 and is pretty close to duelly territory. It will have a pin weight of 3200 pounds give or take and it is pretty rare to find a 250 that carries more than 2800.

If it were me I would want a duelly for that weight but a single rear wheel 350 will handle it. Anything over 16,000 is solidly duel rear wheel time.
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If you get an F250 you'll have to add airbags for that heavy of pin weight. Instead use that bag money to get an F350. IMO for 15,000 lbs it's dually territory.
I agree with both of these. I had a 2105 F250 crew cab with the 6.7 and Airlift 5,000 bags pulling a 14,000 5th wheel. Although it worked pulling, stability and cargo capacity will still be an issue. I traded for A 2017 f350 DRW 6.7 and I am much happier with the handling/stopping/not worrying about how much stuff was packed.
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