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luckeyd · 01-19-2006, 08:30 AM

I have the 04 Excursion with the 6.0L diesel. Best vehicle yet. Towing almost 9000# trailer over 30000 trouble-free miles. Milage varies from 10-12 depending on speed towing. Empty it gets 21-22 MPH at 70 plus on the interstates, and 15-17 intown driving. All values hand calculated as the overhead console is about 1 MPG off. Sits in my driveway for weeks on end just waiting to tow the trailer.

luckeyd · 01-19-2006, 08:33 AM

mjstef

The transmission is the weak link in the Dodge line. Go to the Dodge forum and read some about their trannys. Good luck!

RustyJC · 01-19-2006, 10:40 AM

The 48RE and NV5600 have given excellent service in the Dodges. The jury is still out on the new G56 6-speed (introduced mid-2005 model year.)

The "bad ole Dodge transmissions" legend has hung around since the 47RE and NV4500 "5th gear nut" days.

Rusty

twc88 · 01-19-2006, 01:17 PM

As I replied earlier my 6.0 has not been one of my better trucks. Here is another article of interest on the 6.0.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2005...rchID=73232959197957

Diesel Don · 01-20-2006, 02:54 AM

I had two 7.3 PSDs and they were great,

My 04 left me sitting by the side of the road 4 times.

PSD stands for Power Stroke Diesel in 7.3 models.

PSD stands for Personal Stranding Device in 6.0s

Thanks Ken

I went for a new 05 V10 and so far I am a happy camper and now call myself Diesel Gone in other sites.

TXiceman · 01-20-2006, 04:21 AM

I think you mean Personal Stranding Device for PSD.

Ken

C.CARNEY · 01-20-2006, 04:37 PM

I wonder what the ratio is for good 6.0's to bad ones. I had a 2000 7.3 that had 145,000 miles on trade in, never a problem- perfect running condition, for a 2005 6.0 Tow boss. I have 14,500 flawless miles on it so far, an even better towing truck than my old 7.3 which was an awesome truck. I knock on wood hoping I have one of the good ones. I have read all the tells of problems on all the Ford sites, and I know there is a possibility of a problem. There are ALOT of 6.0's on the road, many are perfect running trucks, some are not. But that's just it, we only hear about the problems, not many tout the good ones. I personally know guys that own both Dodge and Chevy trucks that have had problems with their diesels also. There isn't a perfect truck out there, but truth is that some ARE better than others. Ultimately which ever truck you decide to buy, all you can do is maintain it the best you can and hope that you got a good one.

Clark

CoastalDav · 01-22-2006, 05:03 AM

I found this link to Flat Rate Tech that really tells the story of the 6.0 when it first came out in 2003. How bad things were.

Dave

http://flatratetech.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?u...pic;f=1;t=000851;p=1

TQ 27 · 01-23-2006, 11:10 AM

The articles you are refering to are dated in 2003. There is no doubt that the 6.0 was rushed to market and many customers were used in the R and D of the motor. Ford has fixed most of the problems now, thanks to there unpaid "techs"

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CoastalDav · 01-23-2006, 01:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TQ 27:
The articles you are refering to are dated in 2003. There is no doubt that the 6.0 was rushed to market and many customers were used in the R and D of the motor. Ford has fixed most of the problems now, thanks to there unpaid "techs"

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I thought I said that.

Dave · 01-26-2006, 02:12 PM

I work in the auto manufacturing industry. Last issue of a couple trade magazines had articles abotu the 6.0. Warrenty work for Diesel engines in Ford went up over 5.5 million dollars between 2002 and 2003. It was up over 7 million in 04.

03 thru 05 Power stoke has over 15 tsb's on the 6.0. GM has 5 TSB on the Duramax and Dodge has 1 TSB on the cumins. These are only engine related, not any other issues with the trucks.

Ford is not alone in the buy backs. GM rushed the LLY version of the duramax to market in 04.5. It was only produced 04.5 and 05. My 05 was a bad overheater. GM is swapping it out for an 06. Over 21 changes to the cooling system for 06. Not to mention a 6 speed allison vice a 5 speed allison in the 05. It is also now 360HP and 650 torque

Garin1 · 02-21-2006, 01:26 AM

Hmmm Lets see,, 13 years of good service and 679000miles with no problems. Now because you have 10k of WARRENTY WORK on one vehicle you want to bail. Good Luck Chief

Hitchhiker · 02-21-2006, 02:01 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The articles you are referring to are dated in 2003. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This thread was started with a link to much more recent information than 2003, actually the Autoblog linked was posted Dec 16, 2005 by John Neff. He quotes reports from Autoweek that indicate "Ford has been sued 58 times over the engine and in the first nine months of 2005 warranty costs at the company have gone up by $500 million".

There might be more to this than any Ford owner would like to admit?

TQ 27 · 02-21-2006, 11:10 AM

Well I can't dispute the facts. I quess My 6.0 must be a complete piece of junk that has caused me nothing but trouble. I'm happy you people showed me how wrong I have been. Do I ever feel foolish.