Ford dealer just sent a check for $12,188 to use.

[Jack Klompus]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

Read right under the Lariat package is a line item 10,000/9,900 GVWR Package - What is that doing as a line item on a F-350 build?

Did you pick a different GVWR package?

Also, tuffr, you don't have access to XPlan pricing? If you aren't up to the hassle of negotiating, it is at least a way to get a marginal deal.

[tuffr2]

That GVWR package was some kind of default. I did not pick it.

I did pick the camper package to see if it would change the GVWR package but it did not change.

At this point I do not know what to think. It makes some sense it is for registration but the GVWR sticker on the truck should say 11,500lbs. Edit - I just googled the GVWR of the F-350. It starts at 10,000lbs with 20" wheels. I am worried that the F-350 I built is like the F-250. I built this with the salesman.

Oh, this dealer will send another voucher in a few months. But the $12,188 was the highest voucher they have sent. I did register again at the dealership so they have me in their system.

[tuffr2]

Ok - I am learning more about the myriad of configurations of the F-250 and F-350. Here is what I think I know. There is over lap of GVWR's between the F-250 that can have a GVWR of 10,000 to 10,800lbs. The F-350 can have GVWR's from 10,000 to 11,500 for the 6.75' bed.

(A F-350 SRW can have a GVWR of 12,400lbs with the 8' bed)

Interesting the rear axle rating of the F-250 is 6,200lbs and the rear axle rating of the F-350 is 7,200lbs.

I wonder how to order a F-350 with say a GVWR of 10,700lbs?

[Cumminsfan]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

Ok - I am learning more about the myriad of configurations of the F-250 and F-350. Here is what I think I know. There is over lap of GVWR's between the F-250 that can have a GVWR of 10,000 to 10,800lbs. The F-350 can have GVWR's from 10,000 to 11,500 for the 6.75' bed.

(A F-350 SRW can have a GVWR of 12,400lbs with the 8' bed)

Interesting the rear axle rating of the F-250 is 6,200lbs and the rear axle rating of the F-350 is 7,200lbs.

I wonder how to order a F-350 with say a GVWR of 10,700lbs?
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Why would you want to if you can get an F250 with 10,800 for cheaper?

[Krbjmpr]

My lady was made a sweet deal to trade in her 2017 Toyota Tundra 1794 in for a 2020 model. Zero interest, lot of incentives incl 5 year maintenance agreement, Toyota Service contract after 3 years and so forth.


She tried to pursue it, and there are zero 2020 Tundra 1794 pickups on the lots. So, she made a deal for a 2021. Offer is still applicable, and they sweetened the pot by throwing in another $7500 off bottom line. She is due for new tires in a few months, that will be a grand just for those, 36k mile maintenance is another couple grand. The real upside is that the 2021 comes with *air conditioned* seats, not just heated and ventilated. Very handy to have in South Texas with a remote start kit.

[NevadaNick]

Gvwr is a worthless number. Find the truck with the best gawr that will work for what you want to tow.

[Goodspike]

Originally Posted by Cumminsfan

Why would you want to if you can get an F250 with 10,800 for cheaper?

Heavier duty rear axle?

[mistercee]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I think when I select the 6.5' bed that is the problem. That seems to set the GVWR to 10,000lbs on a F-350 gasser.

I believe that is correct. If interested, page 29 of the 2020 Super Duty order guide linked below identifies the configurations that can be ordered with the 11.4K GVWR option.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/f...rder-Guide.pdf

I noticed there is also option '96G - Heavy Duty Payload Package' offered, that must be the bump up to 12K plus GVWR.

[tuffr2]

What I want is the heavier duty rear axle. The 7,200lb axle rating would help in towing (carrying the weight) of a mid profile 5th wheel. That and a truck with the 5th wheel prep package. That is the option that is missing from my current truck. I can have the old fashion rails added for a few hundred dollars but I never liked those rails.

I also find it odd Ford will put a 7,200lb capacity rear axle on a truck with a GVWR of 10,000lbs when it should be 11,200lbs at least.

[jacknife]

Just a sales gimmick !

[Krbjmpr]

Originally Posted by NevadaNick

Gvwr is a worthless number. Find the truck with the best gawr that will work for what you want to tow.

Perhaps until you pull into a state that ALL vehicles pulling a trailer are weighed, like Colorado. Then it becomes quite important and you wonder if you really needed that extra 12 pack of beer, full load of water, big can of formula, etc.


Show me a collision involving a tow vehicle exceeding GVWR and I will show you a driver that has significant contributing factor to damage and / or fault.

[NevadaNick]

Gvwr has no legal basis. Gawr and/or tire rating and possibly registration do.

[tuffr2]

One option I might consider is to look at GM trucks as about a year ago I saw a 2020 GM 2500HD truck with an 11,300 lb gvwr and a 5th wheel prep package. I think that gvwr is accurate.

I should become familiar with the GM trucks as well as the Ram trucks. Seems their 2500 series trucks carry a higher GVWR than the Ford F-250.

I will research the axle ratings on the Ram and GM 2500 series trucks today.

[Jack Klompus]

Originally Posted by NevadaNick

Gvwr has no legal basis. Gawr and/or tire rating and possibly registration do.

Yes, this is my point. Make sure you understand the GVWR packages specifically are a piece of paper only. They aint changing you axel.